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re: Company car w/ gas card OR $1k monthly allowance + fed mileage rate

Posted on 6/26/24 at 5:39 pm to
Posted by mudshuvl05
Member since Nov 2023
3155 posts
Posted on 6/26/24 at 5:39 pm to
I used to average 6 to 8,000 miles per month in peak season (oftentimes more), and 2 to 3,000 per month in the off-season when I was driving around bidding/estimating/selling.

Tried it with both: I'll take the company car and gas card every single time, and it's not even close.
Posted by Gorilla Ball
Az
Member since Feb 2006
12884 posts
Posted on 6/26/24 at 9:17 pm to
Outside sales. I forgot to mention that before the escape I drove a nussan ultima
It’s just tough in a smaller vehicle
Posted by Higgysmalls
Ft Lauderdale
Member since Jun 2016
7699 posts
Posted on 6/26/24 at 9:20 pm to
You not getting 3k in work miles. I drive my arse off and get 1800 a month. I doubt you are getting 1 k a month also
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30047 posts
Posted on 6/26/24 at 9:22 pm to
quote:

I drive my arse off and get 1800 a month.




That is less than 100 miles a work day, some people put more than that on just on their commute.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
65282 posts
Posted on 6/26/24 at 9:41 pm to
I get 800 a month car allowance and work from home.
Posted by DarkDrifter
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2011
5115 posts
Posted on 6/26/24 at 9:42 pm to
quote:

$1k monthly allowance + fed mileag


Uhh.. that's an easy choice
Posted by Higgysmalls
Ft Lauderdale
Member since Jun 2016
7699 posts
Posted on 6/26/24 at 9:44 pm to


I don't know how many days you work a month but 20-21 work days in a month. So it's well over 100 miles a day. Also you can't claim commute miles if you are getting fed rate. Realistically drive 3600 -4000 miles a month. Businesses will only give Fed rate instead of company car because they don't wanna pay insurance and upkeep. So it makes little sense that they would give 1k on top of mileage

Your comment about most people get that on commute tells me you don't really know what you are getting into. It is federal law that you can't claim commute miles
This post was edited on 6/26/24 at 9:48 pm
Posted by MizunoDude
Member since May 2020
1114 posts
Posted on 6/26/24 at 9:44 pm to
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Posted by TrueBaldPate
BR
Member since Dec 2019
953 posts
Posted on 6/26/24 at 9:46 pm to
If they pay insurance and change oil and fix it like us take the car.
Run the numbers at 36000 miles a year how often do you need another car?
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
86406 posts
Posted on 6/26/24 at 10:43 pm to
I’d prob take the allowance to get a different vehicle, but that would be taxed.

I would be alright not to move up a tax bracket but if you are close it could move you up a tax bracket. So keep that in mind.


You could get a much more gas friendly vehicle than the f150. And some of cars now have much bigger intervals when needing an oil change. Prob would only need 4 a year or every 3 months.


Invest/save the extra money.








This post was edited on 6/26/24 at 11:01 pm
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
63068 posts
Posted on 6/26/24 at 10:57 pm to
quote:

Tried it with both: I'll take the company car and gas card every single time, and it's not even close.


Yeah I'm skeptical that these folks saying take the cash have ever worked this sort of job.
Posted by nated14
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2009
926 posts
Posted on 6/26/24 at 11:09 pm to
Maybe I am an anomaly bit my change oil on my Ram 1500 hits at around 8300 miles and i rotate my tires everother oil change. I go an easy 3 years/65k miles on a set of tires.
Posted by Jj283
Houma
Member since May 2015
810 posts
Posted on 6/26/24 at 11:22 pm to
I’ve had both. Currently have a Ram 2500 Laramie 4x4- Cummins. Really nice truck. I can drive it like I own it, tow my camper etc. I do have my own insurance on it to cover me on personal time, that’s about $160 a month.

Don’t have to pay for maintenance, tires, fuel (unless I leave the state for personal trip). If it breaks I bring it to our in house mechanic.


I’d prefer this set up over an allowance any day.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
86406 posts
Posted on 6/26/24 at 11:42 pm to
quote:

I’ve had both. Currently have a Ram 2500 Laramie 4x4- Cummins. Really nice truck. I can drive it like I own it, tow my camper etc. I do have my own insurance on it to cover me on personal time, that’s about $160 a month. Don’t have to pay for maintenance, tires, fuel (unless I leave the state for personal trip). If it breaks I bring it to our in house mechanic. I’d prefer this set up over an allowance any day.


Yeah I guess it just depends.

If I had no need for the truck I’d take the allowance and get a Toyota hybrid with 50mpg. You will never get close to the .67 per mile in gas costs. Can max out a Roth if you aren’t already and still have cash in pocket left over.


This would also depend where in my life I’m at. Don’t need to start saving, need the bigger vehicle and travel a lot with family, take the truck.







Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
8091 posts
Posted on 6/26/24 at 11:50 pm to
The allowance sounds great until:

-you have to buy tires
-oil changes, brakes, other repairs & maintenance
-insurance (not going down)
-windshields (they are a consumable in South LA)
-you end up with a car that has high mileage sooner and have to do long term maintenance/repairs or buy another vehicle.
-if your vehicle gets crashed/totaled during the course of work travel, you have to replace it

A vehicle is a rapidly depreciating asset that costs you money every mile you drive, let someone else bear that expense.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30047 posts
Posted on 6/27/24 at 12:22 am to
quote:

I don't know how many days you work a month but 20-21 work days in a month. So it's well over 100 miles a day.


I quoted and was responding to this part of your post:

quote:

quote:
I drive my arse off and get 1800 a month.




That is less than 100 miles a work day, some people put more than that on just on their commute.


Last time I checked 1800 is fewer than 2000-2100.

I understand the confusion about commuting my point was not that commuting is deductable (only in very specific situations like setting up your home office as your principal business address) but that people commute that much and don't think of it as driving their arse off.


The funniest thing is you said this:

quote:

You not getting 3k in work miles.


and then post a screen grab that shows you got within 200 miles of that 3 months running.

My point is 1800 miles is not "driving your arse off" as you suggested. Again that is less than 100 miles per work day.

Posted by Gorilla Ball
Az
Member since Feb 2006
12884 posts
Posted on 6/27/24 at 12:27 am to
Wtf - I do around 48,000 miles for work a year
Posted by DeltaTigerDelta
Member since Jan 2017
13532 posts
Posted on 6/27/24 at 2:37 am to
A car allowance benefits the company, not you. Whoever is on the hook for providing the vehicle gets the short end of the stick. That is why so few companies provide a car these days.
Posted by Dairy Sanders
Member since Apr 2022
2963 posts
Posted on 6/27/24 at 5:26 am to
quote:

take the vehicle, the money is taxable


Fed mileage isn’t taxed.
Posted by boudinman
Member since Nov 2019
6101 posts
Posted on 6/27/24 at 6:47 am to
Take the company car, and set aside $500 in savings a month you're not payying towards a vehicle note. In 60 months you will have $30,000 in a savings account.
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