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re: Commuting by train >>>>> commuting by car

Posted on 2/5/19 at 9:15 am to
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 9:15 am to
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The only people who use public transit here are the ones with no other option.

Europe chuckles at this notion, but a lot of what people dislike about public transportation in the U.S. is because of the "clientele"

Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25579 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 9:16 am to
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I live in DC and took the metro to work every day.. Ridership has fallen due to the increase in cost, the unreliability of metro and not to mention the shenanigans that goes on.


My experience was near 20 years ago and rode from Alexandria to Downtown. I have only ridden it a few times in the last 10 years and that was from Greenbelt in.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260058 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 9:19 am to
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but a lot of what people dislike about public transportation in the U.S. is because of the "clientele"


There was a huge car fetish in the US for a few decades. I think it's more about independence than clientele.

If the country was as densely packed as Europe of Japan things would probably be much different.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 9:22 am to
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There was a huge car fetish in the US for a few decades

true, and a lot of the large metropolitan areas are really in the early development stages of having a decent public transportation system, and its development was more than likely retarded because of our love for having our own set of wheels to come and go in
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
47466 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 9:23 am to
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There was a huge car fetish in the US for a few decades

I've never fricked a car!
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70117 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 9:24 am to
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Europe chuckles at this notion, but a lot of what people dislike about public transportation in the U.S. is because of the "clientele"


To be fair though, that's how it's sold to the public though, as a means of transportation for low income people.

When I lived in NOLA I rode the busses sometimes. I don't know if I still would now that Uber and Lyft exist. I have the MetroLink here in St Louis but none of the stations are convenient to my house or my work and it's absurdly dangerous outside of a Cardinals weekend day game.

Public transportation in general has a lot of things working against it. Perception, poor management, unreliability, and safety. All of these things need to be addressed to have any hope of it working. After that, you have to change peoples habits.
Posted by Uncle Stu
#AlbinoLivesMatter
Member since Aug 2004
33659 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 9:24 am to
I cant imagine having to drive to work anymore. Taking the train every day has been a refreshing eye-opening change.

I dont know how I'd get to work without the rail. Also, I have zero hesitation to grab drinks after work. It's really the best. I go months in a row without having to drive anywhere, it's fantastic.
Posted by atxfan
Member since Jul 2004
3526 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 9:24 am to
I thought this was an interested demonstration of how different commuter options can impact traffic.

Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 9:25 am to
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I've never fricked a car!

I'm very skeptical of that, coming from you
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
26543 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 9:25 am to
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To be fair though, that's how it's sold to the public though, as a means of transportation for low income people.


That's not really the case in major cities in the US.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
65687 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 9:26 am to
yeah, the bus and train examples look miserable to me.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70117 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 9:27 am to
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That's not really the case in major cities in the US.


It's definitely the case in Baton Rouge, which supports your point.
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
26543 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 9:28 am to
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It's definitely the case in Baton Rouge, which supports your point.


When did BR get a train?
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70117 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 9:28 am to
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When did BR get a train?


I'm referring to public transportation in general, so in BRs case, CATS.
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
26543 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 9:30 am to
Yeah, a bus system without the support of a train is an extremely different public transit system than a train system supported by a bus line. I usually don't use the bus system (unless headed to/from the airport) because it's much less frequent and reliable. I'm more talking about using a subway/metro to commute within a city.
This post was edited on 2/5/19 at 9:32 am
Posted by atxfan
Member since Jul 2004
3526 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 9:31 am to
With the bus option you're still sitting in traffic, just a few less cars. Although it's a lot less stressful than driving. The train gets crowded but it's at least predictable on how long it takes. Only good options are helicopter, commuting at off peak hours, or not commuting at all.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70117 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 9:35 am to
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I'm more talking about using a subway/metro to commute within a city.


I would love a more efficient rail system in St Louis. They're looking at expanding from just the East-West line to a North-South line.
Posted by TOSOV
Member since Jan 2016
8922 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 9:35 am to
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the bus and train examples look miserable to me.


The train example looked so miserable that the bus option was looking pretty good. Ha
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 9:37 am to
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The only good public transport in miami is the metrorail express link to the airport


when I was there the tri-rail stopped a mile or so east of the airport(where I worked,) and you had to take a bus into the airport, strong taxi lobby I suppose, wasn't convenient at all, plus leaving a vehicle a the northernmost tri-rail station for a few days wasn't a good idea, I've heard it's vastly improved now
Posted by MLCLyons
Member since Nov 2012
4708 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 9:38 am to
When I lived in NYC I had a 1 block walk to the subway, a 15 ride, and a 5 minute walk to my office. I loved it.
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