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re: Coming to a McMansion near you...the 50 year mortgage

Posted on 11/9/25 at 5:46 am to
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
17857 posts
Posted on 11/9/25 at 5:46 am to
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Usury is demonic and our culture should be moving away from it


100% agree brother.

Even if you are the man, you should not be doing people like some of these places do.

Check cashing places should be outlawed.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
107562 posts
Posted on 11/9/25 at 5:49 am to
As long as property tax remains legal we are all perpetual renters
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
24002 posts
Posted on 11/9/25 at 5:52 am to
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Holy shite .. you see a tweet about extending mortgages to 50 years and THIS is your takeaway ?? Jesus Christ .. this has to be a troll post, right ? Im going to give you credit for not being that much of a moron .. it would explain a lot about the mental capacity of the current American voter though, ill give you that .


Goddamn, y'all take things way too seriously. I like conspiracies because they are fun thought experiments. They've been talking about extending the human lifespan by 50 to a 100 years for decades. With gene editing technology as well as just good old fashioned slam mechanics into a body to keep it working, it was oddly coincidental that some propose extending a "lifetime mortgage" by 20 more years.

That's fun to think about.

I ran the amortization schedules for shits and giggles. If you take a 50 year mortgage and apply the monthly "savings" directly to the principal each year, you'll actually save money and pay off the loan about 17 months sooner than 30 years. But that's boring.
Posted by Fat and Happy
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
19531 posts
Posted on 11/9/25 at 6:31 am to
I would take lower payments in a heartbeat.
Posted by FriscoKid
Red Stick
Member since Jan 2005
5191 posts
Posted on 11/9/25 at 7:09 am to
We need “portable mortgages”. They are common outside of the US. Borrower takes their current rates with them.
Posted by cdelano2
Member since Sep 2018
44 posts
Posted on 11/9/25 at 7:17 am to
STUPID.

Bring manufacturing back to the US, all industries, prices will drop down like a fat kid on a cup cake. The problem is not the length of a mortgage it is the price of the house. The mortgage companies will make their money no matter what. Hell, they will make more on the 50 year and the property owner will pay more though the life of the mortgage term.

STUUUUUUPID!!!!
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467197 posts
Posted on 11/9/25 at 7:21 am to
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Bring manufacturing back to the US, all industries, prices will drop down like a fat kid on a cup cake.

This doesn't make any sense.

How can we bring manufacturing back to the US and be profitable without prices increasing?

Posted by StansberryRules
Member since Aug 2024
4427 posts
Posted on 11/9/25 at 7:22 am to
They want life long debt slaves.

Every single aspect of modern society is built around forcing people hopelessly into debt and paying it their entire lives.

They don't want the average Joe to own or build anything.

They want to own everything and have eternal servitude.
Posted by cypresstiger
The South
Member since Aug 2008
13541 posts
Posted on 11/9/25 at 7:28 am to
a massive crash which seems to be what everyone wants
—-what??
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467197 posts
Posted on 11/9/25 at 8:06 am to
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a massive crash which seems to be what everyone wants
—-what??


RE is over-valued and we need a lot of deflation in the RE market.

He's engaging in histrionics and calling that a "massive crash" to use dishonestly make it sound scary-bad (see your reaction for why)
This post was edited on 11/9/25 at 8:07 am
Posted by dalefla
Central FL
Member since Jul 2024
3381 posts
Posted on 11/9/25 at 8:14 am to
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Check cashing places should be outlawed.


Predatory lending [payday loans] is a huge cancer. Only the truly evil would think this helps anyone long term.
Posted by TT9
Seychelles
Member since Sep 2008
90676 posts
Posted on 11/9/25 at 8:21 am to
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Another dumb idea
he doesn't lack them.
Posted by Hobie101
Member since May 2012
894 posts
Posted on 11/9/25 at 8:23 am to
Just keep on kicking the financial responsibility can. What could could go wrong?
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179726 posts
Posted on 11/9/25 at 8:23 am to
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RE is over-valued and we need a lot of deflation in the RE market.

He's engaging in histrionics and calling that a "massive crash" to use dishonestly make it sound scary-bad (see your reaction for why)



I’ve been warning people about this for years, and every time I do, I get called out for “wanting a crash.” That couldn’t be further from the truth. A huge portion of my net worth is tied up in real estate (not even counting my personal residence) so a crash would hurt me more than most. But I’m not naive enough to believe that the massive price increases we’ve seen, propped up through all kinds of artificial measures, are healthy or sustainable.

Crashes take time. People forget that the 2008 collapse was decades in the making. It started with Jimmy Carter and was amplified by bad policy under every administration that followed until the system simply couldn’t sustain itself anymore.

Yes, the market has been chugging along, and now we’ve got 50-year mortgages to keep the ride going even longer. But pretending that’s “healthy,” instead of allowing home values to align with wage growth, is pure head-in-the-sand ignorance.

If COVID-era forbearance policies hadn’t let people go years without making a single payment, we probably would have already seen a much larger correction. Trump just ended COVID forbearance last month, so in about 3–6 months, we’ll likely start seeing those homes hit the market, bringing back a necessary part of a healthy system: foreclosures. But with 50-year mortgages, we’re basically eliminating foreclosures again. You can’t remove natural market forces and think that’s good for consumers. It only makes the bubble worse.

We would be better off doing nothing for a decade and keeping 30-year rates high to slow down demand while allowing wages and inventory to catch up, but no one has the stomach to let that happen.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179726 posts
Posted on 11/9/25 at 8:29 am to
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Predatory lending [payday loans] is a huge cancer. Only the truly evil would think this helps anyone long term.


Calm down, Liz Warren!

There are actual studies that show the payday loan places can be a net benefit at times for the communities they serve. IIRC, the studies show that without them, some people wouldn't be able to keep their lights on when they get behind. These people can't get a credit card, and are probably already very bad with money, but the interesting part of the study is that those same people would be way worse off without access to a payday loan hub. It's a very interesting dynamic. They are predatory, but necessary.

The most predatory thing is the Government being too involved in markets, including the overregulation of loan and collection practices, which Liz Warren's CFPB has actually done. Lenders admit that ever since the CFPB has come into existence, they have tightened lending standards, leaving out large segments of society from obtaining fair loans, so those people have to resort to the payday loan places more than ever.

She drove people to the very thing she was trying to keep them away from.
This post was edited on 11/9/25 at 8:41 am
Posted by PacWilly
Member since Jun 2010
568 posts
Posted on 11/9/25 at 9:03 am to
The 30-year mortgage is why so many people in this country are house poor. 15-year should be the max, and a down payment should be necessary.

Everyone’s houses would be smaller and also more affordable.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
46821 posts
Posted on 11/9/25 at 9:06 am to
that is correct. Similarly auto pricing has drifted upward as loan terms have gotten longer.
Posted by travelgamer
Member since Aug 2024
2659 posts
Posted on 11/9/25 at 9:08 am to
Pay it of early, if you can afford it at current rates at 25 years, take advantage otffthe rate and pay it off in 12.5.
Posted by ATrillionaire
Houston
Member since Sep 2008
2404 posts
Posted on 11/9/25 at 9:20 am to
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terrible idea.

better idea: deport the millions of immigrants who’ve flooded our borders the last decade. Kick out the H1Bs as well.

Please no. Americans are dumb AF. Only thing we thrive at is managing intelligent foreigners.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179726 posts
Posted on 11/9/25 at 9:25 am to
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Only thing we thrive at is managing intelligent foreigners.


You do know that a ton of those "smart Indian foreigners" actually fake their test scores and diplomas with the assistance of Indian placement firms who get a commission for placing H1Bs here?

It's a huge bullshite scam.
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