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re: Coming back into the US and noticing all the fats walking around
Posted on 5/16/22 at 10:02 am to Oilfieldbiology
Posted on 5/16/22 at 10:02 am to Oilfieldbiology
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Considering with red and black beans, the gravy is simply the beans cooking down with seasoning how is that bad for you?
its not, but if you take the chicken and throw it in a pot and saute with a bunch of oil, then throw in flour to make a roux and other things like that....yea the calories can add up quickly.
now if you take chicken and saute them down and then deglaze using the holy trinity and then again multiple times using water to make the gravy....well despite when people on here may say...its not any extra calories. you are using the fat from the chicken to create the gravy.
its all about how you cook it.
like i said when it comes to weight loss only a couple things matter
1) calories
2) protein
3) physical activity(resistance training is best for Body comp)
4) sleep
nothing else matters in the grand scheme and the above will make up 95% of your results. people are letting the thought of not being perfect cloud their vision worrying about that mythical 5%.
well frick, average american male has a bodyfat of over 30%....when he gets it down to 15% he can worry about that last 5% of things that help.
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Posted on 5/16/22 at 10:04 am to lsu777
Thanks. Haven't been as strict on my calorie counting because I knew once I got to the point of being able to get more active I'd knock out these last 10-15 pounds. Been maintaining my current weight while working with doctors to try to identify all of my injuries to tailor a workout regimen around them...Runners knee, herniated disc in thoracic, multiple bulges in cervical...
Now it's about seeing what my body can handle without making anything worse as I am not a surgical candidate (although I'm sure I could always find a surgeon if I really wanted to) and doing everything to avoid surgery. The injuries don't impact my everyday life, until I try to get more active and ultimately push to far to fast
Now it's about seeing what my body can handle without making anything worse as I am not a surgical candidate (although I'm sure I could always find a surgeon if I really wanted to) and doing everything to avoid surgery. The injuries don't impact my everyday life, until I try to get more active and ultimately push to far to fast
Posted on 5/16/22 at 10:04 am to SpyBoy
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Well, regardless of who's "right" the Americans are definitely less healthy on aggregate so it still seems there's something wrong with the mindset that got us here.
like i said...less than 10% of americans perform some form of resistance training. we are lazy as frick in the grand scheme
tell someone they need to shoot for 300 min of walking a week and see the looks you get.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 10:05 am to weagle99
I always notice how fat people are when just doing every day things but what really has caught my eye over the past 5-10 years is the number of young people who are fat! The under 30 crowd has to be the fattest of all time.
Problem with staying healthy and keeping the weight down is it actually takes comittment, will power, and some dedication none of which Americans have any longer.
Problem with staying healthy and keeping the weight down is it actually takes comittment, will power, and some dedication none of which Americans have any longer.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 10:05 am to Weekend Warrior79
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Thanks. Haven't been as strict on my calorie counting because I knew once I got to the point of being able to get more active I'd knock out these last 10-15 pounds. Been maintaining my current weight while working with doctors to try to identify all of my injuries to tailor a workout regimen around them...Runners knee, herniated disc in thoracic, multiple bulges in cervical...
Now it's about seeing what my body can handle without making anything worse as I am not a surgical candidate (although I'm sure I could always find a surgeon if I really wanted to) and doing everything to avoid surgery. The injuries don't impact my everyday life, until I try to get more active and ultimately push to far to fast
you should really look into the programming by the athletic truth group...i.e. knees over toes guy
Posted on 5/16/22 at 10:07 am to Oilfieldbiology
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Eating healthy isn’t more expensive than eating poorly.
Wrong. Terribly wrong.
As an example, McDonald's has a four for $5. If a person were to eat a salad, absolutely no way to find a salad for $5. That's a salad without any dressing.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 10:08 am to lsu777
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knees over toes guy
dude is awesome
Posted on 5/16/22 at 10:08 am to HeartAttackTiger
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As an example, McDonald's has a four for $5. If a person were to eat a salad, absolutely no way to find a salad for $5. That's a salad without any dressing.
You don't know how to meal prep?
100g of rice $0.25
8oz chicken $1.50
soy sauce packet $0.05
This post was edited on 5/16/22 at 10:10 am
Posted on 5/16/22 at 10:10 am to RealityTiger
Dr.Lustig is a quack?
His undergrad is nutritional biochemistry from MIT.
His specialty was pediatric endocrinology.
Have you ever read his book?Read it,you might change your mind.
There are studies galore and majority are biased.Scientist doing a study paid for by Kelloggs or Coca- Cola are going to show sugar is not cause of obesity,it’s lack of exercise.
He is not bought and paid for by the food or pharmaceutical industry.
His undergrad is nutritional biochemistry from MIT.
His specialty was pediatric endocrinology.
Have you ever read his book?Read it,you might change your mind.
There are studies galore and majority are biased.Scientist doing a study paid for by Kelloggs or Coca- Cola are going to show sugar is not cause of obesity,it’s lack of exercise.
He is not bought and paid for by the food or pharmaceutical industry.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 10:12 am to lsu777
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and despite what you might have read from an unsourced paper or book....carbs are not the enemy. nor do you need them.
I think this is the part of the issue. People always spout off certain diets or try to completely revamp the way they eat in this grand attempt to lose weight. And then they deride "diet culture" because they failed.
But they miss the first step which is admitting that you have an unhealthy relationship with food, and then accepting that the way you eat is killing yourself.
You have to eat. Worry about getting your protein, shedding some pounds, and feeling better. Get checked out by doctor, get your BP down. THEN when you reach a weight where you've adjusted your relationship with food and it doesn't hurt to walk 2 miles a day, start thinking about experimenting with different macro splits.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 10:12 am to LSUA 75
People also like to be extreme to get attention. Peer-reviewed studies conclude negative calorie surplus is it. Whether you stay on it is largely food choice though. You ain't gonna stay on a diet if you feel gassy or hungry all the time.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 10:14 am to lsu777
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now if you take chicken and saute them down and then deglaze using the holy trinity and then again multiple times using water to make the gravy....well despite when people on here may say...its not any extra calories. you are using the fat from the chicken to create the gravy.
I make gravy using no-fat chicken stock and corn starch. Everybody loves it.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 10:15 am to weagle99
On the beach this weekend and said "Shouldn't it be more like an outlier for someone to be fat, yet we notice the people that are actually in shape. I don't mean gym-enthusiasts. Just people who truly GAF about how they look. Men don't have to be bowed up, in fact that is gross. Just don't be fat.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 10:16 am to Hu_Flung_Pu
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People also like to be extreme to get attention. Peer-reviewed studies conclude negative calorie surplus is it. Whether you stay on it is largely food choice though. You ain't gonna stay on a diet if you feel gassy or hungry all the time.
this is true....sanme goes for if i tell a fatty to cut out all sweets...sure that will work for some but 95% are gonna say frick this after 2 weeks.
rather someone work a twinkie or cupcake into their calories daily and just focus on eating unprocessed whole foods 80% of the time and actually stick to the diet than ahve someone go chicken and veggies only for 2 weeks and fall off the wagon.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 10:16 am to LSUA 75
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Dr.Lustig is a quack?
His undergrad is nutritional biochemistry from MIT.
His specialty was pediatric endocrinology.
Have you ever read his book?Read it,you might change your mind.
There are studies galore and majority are biased.Scientist doing a study paid for by Kelloggs or Coca- Cola are going to show sugar is not cause of obesity,it’s lack of exercise.
He is not bought and paid for by the food or pharmaceutical industry.
anyone that claims carbs are the issue and not calories is a quack.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 10:17 am to lsu777
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dont confuse the typical louisiana meal of rice smoothered in gravy make you think its unhealthy.
"Gravy" is a loose term anyway. I make foods with some sort of cooking liquid/sauce all the time that aren't high in calories.
Cooking down a well seasoned protein for a few hours in chicken stock yields a very delicious "gravy" that certainly isn't unhealthy. You can use a TBS or two of flour for thickening at the beginning without really harming the overall per-serving calorie count. Or thicken at the end with a small amount of corn starch. Most people don't use more than one ladle of liquid from a huge pot anyway.
And as far as chicken, black beans, and rice go.. you'd probably lean Mexican with it anyway, and salsa/lime juice/cilantro/etc. are all low cal and bring a "sauce" to the dish still.
This post was edited on 5/16/22 at 10:20 am
Posted on 5/16/22 at 10:17 am to lsu777
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twinkie or cupcake
All depends on the person though. They could be severely damaged by food and start inching their way back if they don't have the will power to avoid excess. I find that not having it in the house works best for me. If it is in the house, making it hard to get.
I'd rather them find how to make lower calorie "healthy alternatives". Like fat free pudding with dark chocolate chips or vanilla greek yogurt with some blueberries.
I read atomic habits and I believe everyone should read that. If you can develop the habit of only having one oreo a night, all is well. It takes the will though to develop the habit then it's on cruise control. You have to conjure the will but habits are automatic most of the time.
This post was edited on 5/16/22 at 10:21 am
Posted on 5/16/22 at 10:18 am to Loup
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Average American female is 5'4"/171 lbs.
Just had a a doc visit and weighed in at 172. I'm fricking 6'2" tall. I asked the doctor if that was a problem - he told me I was at a normal weight, but these days, with people being so fat, I'd probably get comments on how thin I am - and he was correct - I get those comments all the time. I can't believe that I'm 1 lb heavier than the avg American woman and I'm almost a foot taller.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 10:20 am to cable
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he told me I was at a normal weight, but these days, with people being so fat, I'd probably get comments on how thin I am - and he was correct - I get those comments all the time
We're ~1 page away from someone coming in this thread and saying the bottom end of a healthy BMI would make them look malnourished
Posted on 5/16/22 at 10:21 am to weagle99
Don't worry, before Biden is done, we will have food shortages and we'll be like everyone else in the world.
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