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re: Colorado Truck Driver has sentence dropped from 110 to 10 years.

Posted on 12/30/21 at 7:10 pm to
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 12/30/21 at 7:10 pm to
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I hope your breaks never go out. Because we will all say, well you deserve 110 years.


This is bad trolling.
Posted by BK Lounge
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 12/30/21 at 7:10 pm to
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Seems like an overcorrection. The guy was incredibly grossly negligent.




I haven’t been following that closely, so anyone who’s more familiar with the case please set me straight- but i thought the truck’s brakes failed(??) That would suggest to me that the trucking company /owner would have more liability than the driver.. also i read that he passed a couple of those ‘out of control truck ramp’ things , but that he was a very young , inexperienced driver who thought he could regain control… seems like an honest mistake, though obviously lives were lost as a result.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
175754 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 7:12 pm to
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I hope your breaks never go out. Because we will all say, well you deserve 110 years.

My Toyota doesn’t weigh 80,000 pounds
Posted by Ducyborg
Denver, CO
Member since Apr 2012
1192 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 7:12 pm to
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30 year sentence effectively ends his life


Good because that is what he did to 4 people and not to mention the families that have to deal with that lose of life.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30025 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 7:12 pm to
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I haven’t been following that closely, so anyone who’s more familiar with the case please set me straight- but i thought the truck’s brakes failed(??)


He passed multiple runaway truck ramps.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
17175 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 7:12 pm to
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I mean, wasn't he at fault and negligent every step of the way?


I mean his brakes went out. Not sure how you can put all the blame on him for that.
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 7:12 pm to
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Good. That's more in line with what he deserves.


Did the people he hit deserve to die due to his negligence?
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30025 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 7:14 pm to
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My Toyota doesn’t weigh 80,000 pounds
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Unless your mom and wife are with you.

Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 7:14 pm to
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Not sure how you can put all the blame on him for that.



He stopped and had his brakes inspected before killing people. He knew there were problems.

And he ignored the runoff areas.

He should have been locked away for a long time.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
135825 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 7:14 pm to
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I mean his brakes went out. Not sure how you can put all the blame on him for that.


He passed up several opportunities to use a runaway ramp. That's the negligent part we are all talking about.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
17175 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 7:15 pm to
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Did the people he hit deserve to die due to his negligence


Did the people that die die due to his negligence, or the break failure on the truck. I would argue it had much more to do with the latter.
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 7:15 pm to
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tigers

Colorado Truck Driver has sentence dropped from 110 to 10 years.
A 30 year sentence effectively ends his life. He likely wouldn't get out of prison at 56


Good.

What about the families that he destroyed?
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
76184 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 7:15 pm to
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Good because that is what he did to 4 people and not to mention the families that have to deal with that lose of life.


I'm with you. That's why I'm not sure what the bargaining to commute his sentence to 30 years from 110 was. I guess he does get out with the 30 years. But you have made a person that doesn't belong in society.

Between 30 and 10 is a huge difference.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
17175 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 7:18 pm to
He drove past the ramp areas. That was a dumb mistake. No going past that.

And unless you can do something to prove that he caused the brakes to fail, I have a hard time placing blame on someone to the point of giving them life in prison for that.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
76184 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 7:20 pm to
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Good.

What about the families that he destroyed?


I'm not pulling for any outcome.

To me, minimum sentencing guidelines are there for a reason. To prevent case by case interpretations.
Posted by BK Lounge
Member since Nov 2021
5035 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 7:21 pm to
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He passed multiple runaway truck ramps.



I stated as much in the part of my post that you failed to quote.


Ive never been a truck driver, maybe you have- but im wondering if a very young inexperienced new trucker might try in vain to regain control whilst passing runaway truck ramps ?
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30025 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 7:24 pm to
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Ive never been a truck driver, maybe you have- but im wondering if a very young inexperienced new trucker might try in vain to regain control whilst passing runaway truck ramps ?


I imagine the monetary cost of hitting the ramp and the chance of losing his job were dancing in his head.

Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
20549 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 7:26 pm to
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I imagine the monetary cost of hitting the ramp

Would've cost him $0 to pull into a runaway ramp... or upshift.
This post was edited on 12/30/21 at 7:26 pm
Posted by Planetarium
Member since Jul 2020
338 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 7:27 pm to
It's my understanding he burnt the brakes up miles before and knew it, but kept driving, even after being offered help in adjusting them. So then he topped this hill at max speed for his truck. Which was around 70. So he tries to downshift, and misses the gear, freewheeling up to 85 mph. Then instead of running off the road he tried to ride it out with the truck in neutral and zero brakes. Instead of driving into the median, which was clear, he plowed in to cars stopped for an accident. And then jumped out and ran after the crash.

POS deserves far more than 10 years.

Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
135825 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 7:28 pm to
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And then jumped out and ran after the crash.


I didn't know this, but sounds like he should have received more charges that would have kept him in jail.

Yep, I'd be at the Governor's door every day if this was my family.
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