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re: Colorado De-felonizes Schedule I and II Personal Drug Possession

Posted on 5/29/19 at 12:35 pm to
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
21374 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 12:35 pm to
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Are you high?


Nope. I have 25 years of experience as an adult probation officer.

I have innumerable experiences of dealing with people with all types of drug use issues and addictions as well as witnessing the effects of the various strategies employed to get people off of drugs.

I can tell you without a doubt that almost every drug user is well aware of the potential penalties, what should be done to avoid detection, how much can be carried to avoid more serious penalties, etc.

Their information is usually outdated or mostly wrong, but they believe it to be true and it influences their decisions. People are easily self-deluded, usually erring on the side of leniency towards themselves.

A reduction in penalties will be received as triumphant news by the drug use crowd and it will become part of the mythos and lore of the drug subculture.
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 12:40 pm to
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Nope. I have 25 years of experience as an adult probation officer.


Irrelevant with the "I wanna get high" club here.
Posted by caro81
Member since Jul 2017
6050 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 12:41 pm to
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Good. Without a victim there shouldn’t be a crime
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171955 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 12:44 pm to
Shocker, a guy whose job is dependent on drug users going to jail says legalizing drugs is a bad thing.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297469 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 12:45 pm to
Good.

Screw the nanny state.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
40326 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 12:47 pm to
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You serious Clark? Legalizing drugs will INCREASE the Government at every level.


I see I am dealing with a retard. I'll leave you be.
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
16036 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 12:51 pm to
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But it isn't.....more and more people will now try these drugs bc they'll only get a fine.....more and more will become addicts and our tax money will be spent on their addictions.


Oh for fricks sake, is that REALLY what you think? Im so tired of this illogical course of thinking. You think little Jimmy will start shooting up heroin now because it’s no longer a felony and now a misdemeanor? “No longer a felony you say, well in that case, pass the needle!”
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
16036 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 1:08 pm to
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I see a rapid spike in dangerous drug usage


That’s because youre too dependent on the system and it’s what you want to see. Meanwhile, in places around the world that have not only defelonized but completely decriminalized heroin have seen amazing results. Take Switzerland for example...

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Since then, the number of new heroin users in Switzerland has declined. Drug overdose deaths dropped by 64 percent. HIV infections dropped by 84 percent. Home thefts dropped by 98 percent. And the Swiss prosecute 75 percent fewer opioid-related drug cases each year.


Posted by jdd48
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
23455 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 2:00 pm to
Meanwhile Louisiana just voted down reducing criminal penalties for first time simple marijuana possession.
This post was edited on 5/29/19 at 2:03 pm
Posted by Apache
San Diego
Member since Dec 2013
2749 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 2:07 pm to
Seattle did this. Seattle is a shithole because of it.
Posted by PrettyLights
Member since Oct 2014
1378 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 2:17 pm to
Hopefully one day Seattle will be as nice as New Orleans and Baton Rouge.
Posted by JETigER
LSU 2011 National Champions
Member since Dec 2003
7081 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 2:18 pm to
But States don't have rights. The civil war decided that federal law cannot be replaced with state law.
Posted by Sayre
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Nov 2011
5754 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 2:30 pm to
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But it isn't.....more and more people will now try these drugs bc they'll only get a fine.....more and more will become addicts and our tax money will be spent on their addictions


Keep on saying the same ignorant bullshite.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
23755 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 2:42 pm to
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saw a show the other day where a paramedic was saying a lot of these junkies are actually getting addicted to Narcan. 


Jesus, nobody is getting addicted to Narcan gramps.

That doesnt even make sense. Naloxone does the exact opposite as heroin or other opioids and actually blocks opioid receptors in the brain. I'm sure that's what all the junkies want. Not being able to get high that is.

Think before parroting dumb shite.
Posted by Jibbajabba
Louisiana
Member since May 2011
3920 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 2:47 pm to
I think that if a person gets caught using any drugs, the government should pay for rehab. If you are caught dealing drugs to any extent, you should be executed.

And marijuana and mushrooms should not be considered illegal drugs at all.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171955 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 2:49 pm to
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If you are caught dealing drugs to any extent, you should be executed.


Lol
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
133562 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 2:51 pm to
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If you are caught dealing drugs to any extent, you should be executed. And marijuana and mushrooms should not be considered illegal drugs at all.


So if you sell weed and shrooms, they don’t even bother you.

But if you sell weed, shrooms AND acid, (which is derived from ergot fungus) they should shoot you in the head?

Solid logic there
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109738 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 2:57 pm to
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Shocker, a guy whose job is dependent on drug users going to jail says legalizing drugs is a bad thing.



Sounds like to me his job is trying to keep people out of jail and on the straight and narrow, and he has a pretty good understanding of how hard that is and what actually motivates some of the people who will be most affected by this.

But, what the hell, I'm all for certain states and localities giving this 'hey, let's legalize it all' notion a whirl, and seeing how it plays out. I dig federalism that way.

I'm guessing anyone who thinks it's going to be some sort of panacea or even a slight improvement over what we have now may be woefully naive, but maybe I'm wrong.
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
29530 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 3:00 pm to
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Increased fentanyl use should reduce the dopehead population quite effectively.


I have actually proposed free fentanyl to those over 18 as long as they sign a waiver stating no revivals will be given
Posted by JETigER
LSU 2011 National Champions
Member since Dec 2003
7081 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 3:59 pm to
if everyone went on the straight and narrow right now, the economy would have a short term recession immediately because LEO and judicial system employees would be unemployed.
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