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re: Colorado De-felonizes Schedule I and II Personal Drug Possession

Posted on 5/29/19 at 10:11 am to
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11767 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 10:11 am to
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I don’t think the best course of action or use of money is incarcerating them and then giving them a felony. When they get out it’s basically a given they’ll start using without being able to get gainful employment.


We have generations of people who are unemployable for drug charges. It is sad. There is no second chance. There is only a life of drugs and crime because they cannot get a respectable job.
Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20557 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 10:11 am to
This won’t increase heroin use. That’s such a dumb position to take. A drug being illegal does absolutely nothing to persuade a person from using.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
40326 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 10:16 am to
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You think I'm a liberal??? You're painfully dumber than previously thought


I'm not the one who is arguing against shrinking government.
Posted by hawkster
Member since Aug 2010
6286 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 10:21 am to
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This won’t increase heroin use. That’s such a dumb position to take. A drug being illegal does absolutely nothing to persuade a person from using.

Shocking that the Colorado governor has the exact opposite position when it come to guns.
Posted by EmperorGout
I hate all of you.
Member since Feb 2008
11574 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 10:25 am to
If jail were the answer to addiction we’d have solved it already
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64164 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 10:27 am to
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HB19-1263, "defelonizes" drug possession for substances such as heroin, fentanyl, cocaine and most other illicit drugs.




Fentanyl is NOT to be fricked with. It can put you in the hospital for simply coming into contact with it.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
58890 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 10:39 am to
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hope every first responder in Colorado has a whole cache of NARCAN on them... they're going to need it



Because the threat of a felony vs a misdemeanor is what was really stopping everyone debating trying heroin and fentanyl
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
77183 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 10:40 am to
This is an idea whose time has come. The war on drugs has 50 years of failure to back it up. To keep doing the same thing is the definition of insanity.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171955 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 10:40 am to
Good. Why are you acting like this is a bad thing?
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171955 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 10:41 am to
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Because the threat of a felony vs a misdemeanor is what was really stopping everyone debating trying heroin and fentanyl




But first responders in Colorado do carry narcan.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
68474 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 10:42 am to
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I'm not the one who is arguing against shrinking government.

You serious Clark? Legalizing drugs will INCREASE the Government at every level.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 10:42 am to
I'm for this. The for profit prisons are not.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
58890 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 10:44 am to
Oh for sure, first responders have multiple doses to administer or even give out. Some states have Naloxone as a open script that anyone can purchase from pharmacies
This post was edited on 5/29/19 at 10:46 am
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
21374 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 10:48 am to
I see a rapid spike in dangerous drug usage.

Hopefully, the benefits of reduced prosecution/incarceration costs in dollars and effects on lives will be worth the trade off.

I hope there are enough drug treatment programs ready to handle the explosion of demand.

Also, watch for an increase in other crimes. The predicted reduction in violent crime from decriminalization may be hard to track, as there will be competing forces at play, but property crimes will increase.
Posted by Muthsera
Member since Jun 2017
7319 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 10:49 am to
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But it isn't.....more and more people will now try these drugs bc they'll only get a fine.....


Literally no one in history has been offered heroin and weighed fine amounts vs jail time as the deciding factor for saying yes or no.
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
21374 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 10:59 am to
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Literally no one in history has been offered heroin and weighed fine amounts vs jail time as the deciding factor for saying yes or no.


You literally have no idea what you’re talking about.

First time drug experimenters often become social drug users who often become regular drug users who often become substance abusers who often become hardcore addicts, all based on nothing more than a mental calculus that includes possible legal penalties if caught.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171955 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 11:00 am to
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Some states have Naloxone as a open script that anyone can purchase from pharmacies


Yeah I believe Colorado has that.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
133562 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 11:01 am to
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I see a rapid spike in dangerous drug usage


Right, because the only reason people aren’t sticking a needle in their arm is because it is illegal.

Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
6820 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 11:03 am to
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all based on nothing more than a mental calculus that includes possible legal penalties if caught.


Are you high?
Posted by Demshoes
Up in here
Member since Aug 2015
10688 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 11:15 am to
I see the Louisiana legislature doing something similar in about 2097.
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