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re: College Degree or Work Experience?

Posted on 7/13/22 at 8:45 pm to
Posted by turnpiketiger
Member since May 2020
12031 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 8:45 pm to
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IRL, you better know somebody.


This! 100% true. It’s all about connections. Degree or no degree.
Posted by tadman
Member since Jun 2020
5177 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 8:56 pm to
You should have both. Both have greatly benefitted me.

A business degree from a local state school will help, not just with accounting and finance skills, but it will help you create a network of guys and gals that you will know for the rest of your life. If you go to LSU for example, you will have friends you can call on in Dallas, Houston, Jackson, Memphis, BHM, Atlanta, DC, Chicago, New York, and every hamlet in Louisiana. You will know folks in LA state government, too.

Now flip that over. You don't want to be 22, looking for work, and not have any practical experience (IE look like every other college grad). Doesn't matter if it's white collar or blue collar. Just need to know how the world works and the people in it. I'd suggest 1-2 summers of each - do some landscaping or labor for a summer or two, then intern at a CPA firm, ad agency, or other office.
Posted by Stephen_Bonnet75
Charles Town
Member since Jul 2022
63 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 9:04 pm to
From my experience….Neither benefitted me. Being able to BS an interview mattered the most.
This post was edited on 7/13/22 at 9:05 pm
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
16693 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 9:11 pm to
It depends really but the ideal situation is both. Give me someone who worked their arse off and got a degree while supporting a family.
Posted by TheIndulger
Member since Sep 2011
19315 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 9:14 pm to
Having a college degree is table stakes these days
Posted by Dragula
Laguna Seca
Member since Jun 2020
6508 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 9:29 pm to
quote:

In real life, what’s more appealing? College Degree with little to no real life work experience or work experience with a college degree or no college degree?



Greatly depends on career, some absolutely require a degree
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
12817 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 9:32 pm to
You know how I got my first job? I wore a suit and dress shoes.

The guy said he appreciated I took the job seriously and if I did that, I probably took work serious enough not to fail.

It may not be sound logic but good enough to get hired.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
36425 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 9:36 pm to
It clearly depends on the field/job.

In my field there is an aptitude test that is given during the hiring process. So, it’s more than either a college degree or experience. In general though, a college degree is required because they want to know that you have the ability to learn. Now I assume if you somehow got the certifications without a college degree that would be more important, but I don’t know anyone who has been sponsored for the certs without a degree.
Posted by little billy
Orange County, CA
Member since May 2015
8469 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 9:40 pm to
I only attended LSU for 2 years prior to joining the Navy. When I got out of the Navy I got an entry level job in the purchasing department of a large corporation. I worked my way up over 20 years into a Senior Buyer position and have had a good career. I have supplemented my experience with professional certifications like APICS CPIM and that has helped too. Not having a degree might prevent me from getting into upper management but I'm not cut out that for that anyway. It certainly didn't prevent me from getting an entry level position in corporate America.
Posted by Gee Grenouille
Bogalusa
Member since Jul 2018
7571 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 9:45 pm to
I’ve got 15 years in O&G and although I like the offshore life I want something a little different. I’ve got a two year in instrument/controls and even with the 15 years I know I’m “stuck”. This is still a 170-200k a year job(activate truck nuts) but I’m bored. I’m working now to get a 4 year degree. I’d like to stay in energy but just want a different experience. I’d even go wind or solar projects just to be on the ground for a while. To do that I’m not getting an interview without checking the minimum education criteria.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
13888 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 10:56 pm to
I want the smartest worker. They usually accomplish more than just a hard worker
Posted by Privateer 2007
Member since Jan 2020
7729 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 11:13 pm to
Both.

I'm STEM, so maybe that matters.

But, both education and experience are important.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 12:21 am to
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Doesn't the Army pay for your college?


Yes they pay for it (all branches the same). I actually got paid to go using old MGIB and a state veterans grant. I banked over 2k per month as a full time student, no debt, finished an associate’s & bachelors in 3 years, and then went to grad school until my benefits ran out. I did pay 1200 dollars for this, 100 per month for first year. I don’t know if they still offer MGIB.

That’s different than new 9/11 bill which doesn’t pay as much, provides tuition and cost of living aka housing allowance per zip of school.

Also, my wife and kids get free tuition. Wife already earned her associates and license, but she’s continuing to go and gets paid. But that’s a different VA benefit.

I own my own business because I don’t want to work for other people. Work from home to save overhead costs and watch my youngest while older kids are at school.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
61368 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 12:24 am to
College degree gets you in the door. Work experience after that. In the end, work experience and reputation get you paid and in high demand.

Posted by Guess
Down The Road
Member since Jun 2009
3972 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 12:30 am to
it goes both ways actually getting the degree shows some level of staying power and responsibly like a degree. Generally actual work experience is usually worth a little more being hired, but the degree will give you a higher ceiling in the long run.
Posted by WinnPtiger
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2011
24955 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 12:33 am to
there’s something inherently funny to me about how much this site, which is populated by 90% college grads(best guess), shits on college grads. and I do it too
This post was edited on 7/14/22 at 12:34 am
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 12:34 am to
My fancy papers are in my underwear drawer
Posted by WinnPtiger
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2011
24955 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 12:50 am to
I honestly couldn’t tell you where mine are. probably in some memorabilia plastic bin in my mothers closet
Posted by Locoguan0
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2017
7067 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 1:09 am to
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Work experience. When I’m hiring I don’t want anyone who has been groomed by some queer liberal professors.


Can you give your company info so I can warn people away from it? Thanks.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
28352 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 1:47 am to
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I don’t know if they still offer MGIB.

Montgomery GI Bill doesn't exist anymore. Everything is under the Post 9/11 GI Bill. I got my associates under the MGIB, converted it at the last minute to the Post 9/11 plan, then got a bachelors and masters. Three degrees for free, they paid me.
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