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re: College Degree or Work Experience?
Posted on 7/13/22 at 8:45 pm to TexasTiger33
Posted on 7/13/22 at 8:45 pm to TexasTiger33
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IRL, you better know somebody.
This! 100% true. It’s all about connections. Degree or no degree.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 8:56 pm to Oklahomey
You should have both. Both have greatly benefitted me.
A business degree from a local state school will help, not just with accounting and finance skills, but it will help you create a network of guys and gals that you will know for the rest of your life. If you go to LSU for example, you will have friends you can call on in Dallas, Houston, Jackson, Memphis, BHM, Atlanta, DC, Chicago, New York, and every hamlet in Louisiana. You will know folks in LA state government, too.
Now flip that over. You don't want to be 22, looking for work, and not have any practical experience (IE look like every other college grad). Doesn't matter if it's white collar or blue collar. Just need to know how the world works and the people in it. I'd suggest 1-2 summers of each - do some landscaping or labor for a summer or two, then intern at a CPA firm, ad agency, or other office.
A business degree from a local state school will help, not just with accounting and finance skills, but it will help you create a network of guys and gals that you will know for the rest of your life. If you go to LSU for example, you will have friends you can call on in Dallas, Houston, Jackson, Memphis, BHM, Atlanta, DC, Chicago, New York, and every hamlet in Louisiana. You will know folks in LA state government, too.
Now flip that over. You don't want to be 22, looking for work, and not have any practical experience (IE look like every other college grad). Doesn't matter if it's white collar or blue collar. Just need to know how the world works and the people in it. I'd suggest 1-2 summers of each - do some landscaping or labor for a summer or two, then intern at a CPA firm, ad agency, or other office.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 9:04 pm to Oklahomey
From my experience….Neither benefitted me. Being able to BS an interview mattered the most.
This post was edited on 7/13/22 at 9:05 pm
Posted on 7/13/22 at 9:11 pm to Oklahomey
It depends really but the ideal situation is both. Give me someone who worked their arse off and got a degree while supporting a family.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 9:14 pm to Oklahomey
Having a college degree is table stakes these days
Posted on 7/13/22 at 9:29 pm to Oklahomey
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In real life, what’s more appealing? College Degree with little to no real life work experience or work experience with a college degree or no college degree?
Greatly depends on career, some absolutely require a degree
Posted on 7/13/22 at 9:32 pm to tadman
You know how I got my first job? I wore a suit and dress shoes.
The guy said he appreciated I took the job seriously and if I did that, I probably took work serious enough not to fail.
It may not be sound logic but good enough to get hired.
The guy said he appreciated I took the job seriously and if I did that, I probably took work serious enough not to fail.
It may not be sound logic but good enough to get hired.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 9:36 pm to Oklahomey
It clearly depends on the field/job.
In my field there is an aptitude test that is given during the hiring process. So, it’s more than either a college degree or experience. In general though, a college degree is required because they want to know that you have the ability to learn. Now I assume if you somehow got the certifications without a college degree that would be more important, but I don’t know anyone who has been sponsored for the certs without a degree.
In my field there is an aptitude test that is given during the hiring process. So, it’s more than either a college degree or experience. In general though, a college degree is required because they want to know that you have the ability to learn. Now I assume if you somehow got the certifications without a college degree that would be more important, but I don’t know anyone who has been sponsored for the certs without a degree.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 9:40 pm to Oklahomey
I only attended LSU for 2 years prior to joining the Navy. When I got out of the Navy I got an entry level job in the purchasing department of a large corporation. I worked my way up over 20 years into a Senior Buyer position and have had a good career. I have supplemented my experience with professional certifications like APICS CPIM and that has helped too. Not having a degree might prevent me from getting into upper management but I'm not cut out that for that anyway. It certainly didn't prevent me from getting an entry level position in corporate America.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 9:45 pm to Oklahomey
I’ve got 15 years in O&G and although I like the offshore life I want something a little different. I’ve got a two year in instrument/controls and even with the 15 years I know I’m “stuck”. This is still a 170-200k a year job(activate truck nuts) but I’m bored. I’m working now to get a 4 year degree. I’d like to stay in energy but just want a different experience. I’d even go wind or solar projects just to be on the ground for a while. To do that I’m not getting an interview without checking the minimum education criteria.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 10:56 pm to redneck hippie
I want the smartest worker. They usually accomplish more than just a hard worker
Posted on 7/13/22 at 11:13 pm to Oklahomey
Both.
I'm STEM, so maybe that matters.
But, both education and experience are important.
I'm STEM, so maybe that matters.
But, both education and experience are important.
Posted on 7/14/22 at 12:21 am to WaterLink
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Doesn't the Army pay for your college?
Yes they pay for it (all branches the same). I actually got paid to go using old MGIB and a state veterans grant. I banked over 2k per month as a full time student, no debt, finished an associate’s & bachelors in 3 years, and then went to grad school until my benefits ran out. I did pay 1200 dollars for this, 100 per month for first year. I don’t know if they still offer MGIB.
That’s different than new 9/11 bill which doesn’t pay as much, provides tuition and cost of living aka housing allowance per zip of school.
Also, my wife and kids get free tuition. Wife already earned her associates and license, but she’s continuing to go and gets paid. But that’s a different VA benefit.
I own my own business because I don’t want to work for other people. Work from home to save overhead costs and watch my youngest while older kids are at school.
Posted on 7/14/22 at 12:24 am to Oklahomey
College degree gets you in the door. Work experience after that. In the end, work experience and reputation get you paid and in high demand.
Posted on 7/14/22 at 12:30 am to Oklahomey
it goes both ways actually getting the degree shows some level of staying power and responsibly like a degree. Generally actual work experience is usually worth a little more being hired, but the degree will give you a higher ceiling in the long run.
Posted on 7/14/22 at 12:33 am to Oklahomey
there’s something inherently funny to me about how much this site, which is populated by 90% college grads(best guess), shits on college grads. and I do it too
This post was edited on 7/14/22 at 12:34 am
Posted on 7/14/22 at 12:34 am to WinnPtiger
My fancy papers are in my underwear drawer
Posted on 7/14/22 at 12:50 am to momentoftruth87
I honestly couldn’t tell you where mine are. probably in some memorabilia plastic bin in my mothers closet
Posted on 7/14/22 at 1:09 am to NIH
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Work experience. When I’m hiring I don’t want anyone who has been groomed by some queer liberal professors.
Can you give your company info so I can warn people away from it? Thanks.
Posted on 7/14/22 at 1:47 am to momentoftruth87
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I don’t know if they still offer MGIB.
Montgomery GI Bill doesn't exist anymore. Everything is under the Post 9/11 GI Bill. I got my associates under the MGIB, converted it at the last minute to the Post 9/11 plan, then got a bachelors and masters. Three degrees for free, they paid me.
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