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re: Climbing Mt Everest - WYDI and WHY??
Posted on 1/17/18 at 6:36 pm to HollyWoodCole
Posted on 1/17/18 at 6:36 pm to HollyWoodCole
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Climbing is not a general term for climbers.
Depends on who you are talking to.
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Posted on 1/17/18 at 6:38 pm to LSUintheNW
The climbers that I talk to know the difference.
Posted on 1/17/18 at 6:39 pm to HollyWoodCole
Eta....you really think you are elitist.
This post was edited on 1/17/18 at 6:40 pm
Posted on 1/17/18 at 6:43 pm to LSUintheNW
Wrong. I'm not better than anyone here.
In fact, the cats that have hiked all these giant summits have topped out higher than I have.
My point is that the average person who hikes up one of these monster summits is not climbing.
Climbing is so much more than hiking.
In fact, the cats that have hiked all these giant summits have topped out higher than I have.
My point is that the average person who hikes up one of these monster summits is not climbing.
Climbing is so much more than hiking.
Posted on 1/17/18 at 7:15 pm to gingerkittie
Someone just watched the movie Everest
Posted on 1/17/18 at 7:16 pm to HollyWoodCole
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My point is that the average person who hikes up one of these monster summits is not climbing.
Good portion of those people aren't even climbers/mountaineers to begin with. Just someone with deep pockets.
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Climbing is so much more than hiking
:captainobvious:
I couldn't care less about these tall mountains. If all I cared about was altitude I'd go "climb" all those pussy mountains in Colorado.
Posted on 1/17/18 at 7:20 pm to gingerkittie
No way would I attempt it. I’m happy on flat ground.
Posted on 1/17/18 at 7:22 pm to HollyWoodCole
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When someone brings all your gear to base camp for you and you never physically touch the mountain with your own flesh, you can't call it climbing.
I do know that on Rainier I carried a 70lb pack with not only all my own gear but my share of team gear on top of that.
And we practiced crevasse rescue during which I was definitely touching the mountain with my own flesh.
So far as Everest goes, there are many routes and I'm guessing you are thinking of the popular guided routes, which do have Sherpa assistance whereas others do not. But even those have sections like:
Hillary Step
Lhotse Face
The latter, btw, is a 2000 foot climb up a slope around 60-70 degrees. That isn't a day hike.
Posted on 1/17/18 at 7:29 pm to gingerkittie
Not the least bit interested in climbing anything higher than a rice levee.
Posted on 1/17/18 at 7:35 pm to HollyWoodCole
I've climbed higher mountains in the quad.
Posted on 1/17/18 at 7:47 pm to foshizzle
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And we practiced crevasse rescue during which I was definitely touching the mountain with my own flesh.
If it isn't on rock you're just a poser.
Posted on 1/17/18 at 8:04 pm to LSUintheNW
Me on Three Fingered Jack....only 5.7 to the summit and only about a 50' pitch with 13 miles of hiking involved......
Yep, it ain't climbing cause I hiked 13 miles to bag it.
Posted on 1/17/18 at 8:25 pm to gingerkittie
I wish I could. I’d love to do it but no way. I get bad altitude sickness just going high in Colorado. I’d absolutely die before I made it to the top
Posted on 1/17/18 at 8:41 pm to Tyga Woods
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Denali is on my list. Not sure if I’d ever want to do Everest. Might change my mind though
I did Denali in the winter which is harder than Everest.
I did Everest in 1993 when the wait times at the step weren't so long. The South Col is just a slog except for the stupid wait times at the bottle necks these days. If you are a real mountaineer (have climbing friends and don't need professional guides) the Northeast Ridge and Southeast face make far more sense. Technically harder but safer if you are a solid climber given the issues with the Sol Col these days.
While I haven't done (nor will I ever try, getting to old now) K2, Annapurna and Nanga Parbat by the Rupal Face are by far the biggest notches on my axes.
Despite the fact Denali is not nearly a 8000 meter peak the weather makes it a significant challenge even in the summer. Everest is only harder if you just don't have the genetics for high altitudes.
This post was edited on 1/17/18 at 9:00 pm
Posted on 1/17/18 at 8:46 pm to iAmBatman
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Someone just watched the movie Everest
Naw, I haven't watched it yet. I love the documentaries but the movies don't hold my attention as much because the movies always have fatal flaws, dramatizations and errors which annoy me.
Posted on 1/17/18 at 8:54 pm to gingerkittie
Pass.
I love the people who freak out about leaving people in the dead zone. You do not go up there without knowing the risks, and it is a well established doctrine.
I love the people who freak out about leaving people in the dead zone. You do not go up there without knowing the risks, and it is a well established doctrine.
Posted on 1/17/18 at 8:58 pm to gingerkittie
Hell no and any dumbass that kills themselves trying? Well sorry about that.....
Posted on 1/17/18 at 9:12 pm to HippieTiger
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I'm of the opinion climbing 5.11 on gear is more difficult than summiting everest
That's kinda bullshite, even if we are talking the South Col.
My climbing partners and I were redpointing trad 5.11a/b and doing FAs on 5.10s in out teens and big walls in our college years but in general 8,000 meter peaks take a good bit more time and experience unless you just pay for someone to drag you up them.
Trad 5.11-5.13 just takes shorts bursts of intense focus ,skill and power (depending on the route) but an alpine expedition takes months and months of planning and weeks of suffering while your body is self-destructing.
Posted on 1/17/18 at 9:24 pm to gingerkittie
quote:- Yvon Chouinard
“Taking a trip for six months, you get in the rhythm of it. It feels like you can go on forever doing that. Climbing Everest is the ultimate and the opposite of that. Because you get these high-powered plastic surgeons and CEOs, and you know, they pay $80,000 and have Sherpas put the ladders in place and 8,000 feet of fixed ropes and you get to the camp and you don’t even have to lay out your sleeping bag. It’s already laid out with a chocolate mint on the top. The whole purpose of planning something like Everest is to effect some sort of spiritual and physical gain and if you compromise the process, you’re an a-hole when you start out and you’re an a-hole when you get back.” – 180° South
This post was edited on 1/17/18 at 9:25 pm
Posted on 1/17/18 at 9:41 pm to gingerkittie
Watch the YouTube documentary about the frozen bodies still on the mountain. People just freeze in place and become part of the mountain if they can not safely be retrieved. They literally use some of them as trail markers.
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