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Clearing underbrush on wetlands?
Posted on 2/17/22 at 9:39 pm
Posted on 2/17/22 at 9:39 pm
I have a vacant lot which has wetlands. I need to underbrush the lot so the architects can do a site visit to further plan structures/landscape. I know that I cannot completely clear a wetland, but can the underbrush be cleared? It would be mulched with a forestry mulcher. I inquired with city for applying for an underbrush permit, and asked if I can clear underbrush in the wetland. Their response was they have no jurisdiction on wetlands as it is determined by the corps of engineers. I looked up info on their website and found nothing.
I was hoping that I can clear underbrush from the wetland line to the swamp line, along with the normal plat of land not subject to wetlands.
Also, I think I need a surveyor to verify the wetland line. There are stakes throughout the property, with some of them stating wetlands, but there are not enough markings to accurately determine the total area. Any recommendations on surveyors for the Northshore?
I was hoping that I can clear underbrush from the wetland line to the swamp line, along with the normal plat of land not subject to wetlands.
Also, I think I need a surveyor to verify the wetland line. There are stakes throughout the property, with some of them stating wetlands, but there are not enough markings to accurately determine the total area. Any recommendations on surveyors for the Northshore?
This post was edited on 2/17/22 at 9:50 pm
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Posted on 2/17/22 at 9:43 pm to Mariner
You had best contact the Louisiana Office of Coastal Management or the USACE.
Posted on 2/17/22 at 9:43 pm to Mariner
Normally I would say good luck sarcastically but then I saw where you are located. You are all good, just have to open your checkbook.
Posted on 2/17/22 at 9:44 pm to Mariner
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Clearing underbrush on wetlands
Bush is irrelevant if it's wet enough.
Posted on 2/17/22 at 9:46 pm to Mariner
No. You can sometimes get a permit to do some hand cutting. Architects design on sites with wetlands everyday. If someone told you to clear underbrush first I’d look elsewhere
Posted on 2/17/22 at 9:47 pm to Mariner
I believe there is a certain permit you can get specifically for this. I don't believe you have to get a formal wetland delineation done in order to get the permit.
Posted on 2/17/22 at 9:48 pm to Mariner
You need an engineer not an architect
Posted on 2/17/22 at 9:50 pm to Mariner
Well, to late to play dumb and ask for forgiveness now since it’s posted on the internet . Now you abide by their dumb arse rules.
Posted on 2/17/22 at 9:52 pm to djangochained
The structural engineer comes in after the architect finishes the drawings. Don't you mean a surveyor?
Posted on 2/17/22 at 9:54 pm to Mariner
STP Government/Louisiana/USCOE Stakked
Mariner Fukked
Mariner Fukked
Posted on 2/17/22 at 9:55 pm to TimeOutdoors
The problem we have is the underbrush is too thick in many places and its hard to visualize where everything will go.
The landscape architect wants it done as well.
The landscape architect wants it done as well.
Posted on 2/17/22 at 9:58 pm to Mariner
How many acres are you talking about?
ETA: I don't see a problem with clearing underbrush. You are not removing wetland species, or diverting runoff or building any structures on the land yet.
ETA: I don't see a problem with clearing underbrush. You are not removing wetland species, or diverting runoff or building any structures on the land yet.
This post was edited on 2/17/22 at 10:00 pm
Posted on 2/17/22 at 10:02 pm to AP83
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Well, to late to play dumb and ask for forgiveness now since it’s posted on the internet . Now you abide by their dumb arse rules.
Pretty much this especially if you are just clearing your own land and it's only a couple of acres or so.
Posted on 2/17/22 at 10:02 pm to Mariner
We always did this using areials, topomaps, infared maps, etc. I never had any issues working with Army COE so just talk to them. Most states usually require a permit as well.
Posted on 2/17/22 at 10:04 pm to GumboPot
The lot is 2.8 acres. I would say 1.5 acres are wetlands.
Posted on 2/17/22 at 10:05 pm to GumboPot
What is a marsh fire for $500 alex?
Posted on 2/17/22 at 10:08 pm to Mariner
Call Kelly Mc Hugh & Associates. (985) 626-5611
I've used them before for land surveying services building a home in Mandeville. They should be able to steer you in the right direction.
I've used them before for land surveying services building a home in Mandeville. They should be able to steer you in the right direction.
Posted on 2/17/22 at 10:17 pm to GumboPot
Awesome. Thanks for the recommendation.
Posted on 2/17/22 at 10:19 pm to Mariner
Say, baw....you ain't seen dem ducks down dat way is you?
Posted on 2/17/22 at 10:22 pm to Mariner
If you ask the corps they will tell you to have a third party wetland delineation conducted. Any filling (including mulch) of wetlands will require a Section 404 permit (check out 4345 form on regulatory section on NOLA Army Corps district website). Permitting of your plans for wetlands in turn will require compensation of any permanent wetland impacts, which will cost a small fortune on the north shore. sounds almost like a federal land grab of private property doesn’t it? but this is the process if you play by the rules.
This post was edited on 2/17/22 at 10:28 pm
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