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re: Church shooting in SC***Update**Suspect Identified/Captured
Posted on 6/18/15 at 8:30 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 6/18/15 at 8:30 am to SlowFlowPro
That's because when it's black on black crime that's the general consensus. A lot of black males suffer from mental issues also
You don't consider this an organized crime?
You don't consider this an organized crime?
This post was edited on 6/18/15 at 8:31 am
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Posted on 6/18/15 at 8:30 am to skjellyfetti
What are you trying to say with this graph? Nobody has denied white ppl committing mass murders.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 8:31 am to WeeWee
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3. Aurora Co: The shooter was obviously mentally ill.
I disagree here... He knew exactly what he was gonna do.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 8:31 am to skjellyfetti
So in 32 years there were 52 white rampage killings?? Wow seems like a pattern 
Posted on 6/18/15 at 8:31 am to terd ferguson
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Could you turn those numbers into % of population and repost your stats? Thanks.
Beat me to it.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 8:31 am to StrongSafety
The group of mentally ill, of any race, are being pathologized. How can anyone kill a large number of people and not be considered mentally ill?
Is the conversation regarding mental health now inherently racist?
Is the conversation regarding mental health now inherently racist?
Posted on 6/18/15 at 8:32 am to sunnydaze
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A lot of black males suffer from mental issues also
cool
and? we are not devaluing the crime by saying these people have mental issues
we still want the guy punished
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You don't consider this an organized crime?
do you not know the definition of "organized crime"?
Posted on 6/18/15 at 8:33 am to StrongSafety
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White mass murders are never indicative of the state of the group as a whole.
oh well if you want to go this route, like i said earlier (but you avoided me, as usual), you won't like it
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How can we pathologize minorities in similar acts but essentially give white males the benefit of the doubt?
isn't your argument that minorities are not really engaging in similar acts? are you now backing down from that ?
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It's as if that inner city thug that shoots up a birthday party couldn't be undiagnosised maniac or severely depressed, especially considering black folks reluctance to seek and obtain mental health.
well nobody said DTL, the navy yard shooter, or the DC snipers were completely sane. their mental states were well discussed
these incidents are treated the same regardless of race or sex. so, again, what's your point?
Posted on 6/18/15 at 8:33 am to WeeWee
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You're doing exactly what social scientist say what happens. You're marginalizing white mass murders to an individual motive, such as a world view or a mental illness, which distracts, defends,and protects us from a real discussion.
No you pretending that AAs do no wrong and it is all the white mans fault is what keeps us from having a real discussion.
Lets look at the last 3 white mass shootings:
1: Charleston SC- shooter unkown and therefore no info to talk about as of right now. However he does have a bowl cut and that is a give away.
2: CT shooting: shooter was mentally ill and mother was trying to get him committed.
3. Aurora Co: The shooter was obviously mentally ill.
So how is this a white ppl problem and not a mental health problem?
Dude some crazy just tried to blow up Dallas PD this past weekend. So much for a selective memory.
No, AAs do plenty wrong. But you won't have white crimes, white terrorism, etc pathologize as you will
Ethnic crimes in these parts. It never happens . When someone poses the questions, the Poster is met with distractors and deflectors.
There is a long long history of this and at a certain point, if we are going to pathologize everyone else for similar acts, white males shouldn't be exclude from this, especially considerinrf their historical track record
Posted on 6/18/15 at 8:34 am to SlowFlowPro
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again, if the race pimps didn't start using this situation to state some misplaced, illogical point, i doubt you'd have this reaction
And what point would be illogical?
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do you expect people NOT to respond to irrational bullshite being spewed?
White on White crime is just as common as Black on Black crime
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this is just a random data point with no connection to any other data point. there is no bigger story. this is just a sad reality of living: sometimes really bad outlier incidents occur.
Whether people admit it or not these mass murders must be mitigated. This is happening too often SandyHook, Aurora, IL, SC church, and etc.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 8:34 am to sunnydaze
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You don't consider this an organized crime?
since it's likely that this is a lone shooter, then it cannot be an organized crime by the very nature of the concepts
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. A lot of black males suffer from mental issues also
but the question is one of motivation
does the mental illness drive the violence, or another variable (like participating in organized crime/the drug trade)?
Posted on 6/18/15 at 8:34 am to StrongSafety
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You're doing exactly what social scientist say what happens. You're marginalizing white mass murders to an individual motive, such as a world view or a mental illness, which distracts, defends,and protects us from a real discussion.
As you did this, you attribute minority terroristic acts to a group pathology. How is it that one group can be pathologized but anther group can't?
The distinction is that black Americans cloak themselves in the label of being black, of being part of a group that votes in a like manner, congregates in the same areas, promotes the same issues, etc.
White America does not do this do to a spread of diversity and the fact that I hate a lot of white people.
Anyway, it makes way more sense that street crime committed for territory or money is cultural, not pathological. The huge majority of mass shootings, despite early reporting, have been as a product of mental illness rather than terrorism or ideology (admittedly, the former can be veiled in the latter).
This case could prove to be an exception. It could be anti-minority or anti-religion, in a very coherent manner. Given the appearance of the suspect I have my doubts about the mental status of the shooter (and the fact that he killed 9 people in cold blood, obvi), but we'll just have to see.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 8:36 am to dukke v
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3. Aurora Co: The shooter was obviously mentally ill.
I disagree here... He knew exactly what he was gonna do.
doesn't mean he wasn't suffering some type of mental illness. Mental illness is more than just being temporary insane where you don't know right from wrong.
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A psychiatrist who spent 22 hours interviewing the Aurora movie theater gunman said Thursday he believes James Holmes was capable of knowing that what he was doing was wrong when he shot 12 people to death.
"My opinion is that, whatever he suffered from, it did not prevent him from forming the intent and knowing what he was doing and the consequences of what he was doing," Dr. William Reid testified during Holmes' murder trial.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 8:37 am to LSU_Saints_Hornets
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Whether people admit it or not these mass murders must be mitigated. This is happening too often SandyHook, Aurora, IL, SC church, and etc.
How? Do you really think this is the problem in America today?
Posted on 6/18/15 at 8:37 am to StrongSafety
I hope the Feds start monitoring some of these hate websites. There's one out of Dallas I read occasionally. The website owner is a tea party affiliate in TX. For years he's allowed total f'n psychos to post veiled threats on his website. He's been contacted by secret service several times about threats on his website. He won't do shyt to ban these psychos either.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 8:37 am to StrongSafety
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It's as if that inner city thug that shoots up a birthday party couldn't be undiagnosised maniac or severely depressed, especially considering black folks reluctance to seek and obtain mental health.
That could be absolutely true in some cases... But it's not really a mental health issue in black communities. It's a culture issue.
That's why you have 15 and 16 year olds doing drive by's for gangs in Chicago. This is what they were taught by the people who influence them and they see it as part of life.
Want to know why those drive by's don't happen in white neighborhoods by white kids? Upbringing and influence.
You can try to link white mass murders to black gang violence all you want.
But when there are far and few between mass murders committed by white people and black on black gang violence EVERY SINGLE DAY you should be able to see the difference.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 8:38 am to gatorrocks
Wasn't the DC sniper black? I would consider him mentally ill.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 8:38 am to dukke v
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3. Aurora Co: The shooter was obviously mentally ill.
I disagree here... He knew exactly what he was gonna do.
So did this lunatic
Posted on 6/18/15 at 8:38 am to LSU1NSEC
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I hope the Feds start monitoring some of these hate websites. There's one out of Dallas I read occasionally. The website owner is a tea party affiliate in TX. For years he's allowed total f'n psychos to post veiled threats on his website. He's been contacted by secret service several times about threats on his website. He won't do shyt to ban these psychos either.
Do you honestly believe our DOJ, especially in this administration, isn't monitoring those sites?
Posted on 6/18/15 at 8:38 am to LSU_Saints_Hornets
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And what point would be illogical?
did you see the insane graphic posted earlier trying to compare media portrayals of completely dissimilar events?
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White on White crime is just as common as Black on Black crime
not in terms of per capita incidents. violent crime committed by balck people occurs about as often as violent crime committed by white people (and both attack their own race by and large). however, white people are like 70% of the population and blacks are like 13% of the population. that should make your jaw drop that 13% of the population can be the cause of about half of the violent crimes.
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Whether people admit it or not these mass murders must be mitigated.
that is literally impossible
this shite has been going on since man has existed. hell the most violent incident in US history happened almost 100 years ago (and no guns were used)
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