re: Chloroquine cured this flu in France at 100% success rate

What about if they used these drugs with a person that is in heart failure? Hey, thanks Doc.

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Which the FDA came out after the presser to let everyone know that it is NOT FDA approved.

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Geez the ignorance.

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muh lots of studies, vaccine in 42 months

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That long? I would have about a 0 chance to Not catch this crap. I'm in that 16% chance to NOT make it. I am 10+ years living with HF which is very high.

So I found it odd that this Gregory Rigano guy has been way overstating the results and the implications of this study (albeit promising nonetheless) And despite having nothing to do with the study though, but he’s been interviewed as if an expert Fox News, Glenn Beck, etc. because he says he’s an “an advisor to the Stanford School of Medicine.”

It turns out, that’s this is a complete lie:

Chloroquine May Fight Covid-19—and Silicon Valley’s Into It

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a spokesperson for Stanford Medical School emails: “Stanford Medicine, including SPARK, wasn’t involved in the creation of the Google document, and we’ve requested that the author remove all references to us. In addition, Gregory Rigano is not an advisor with Stanford School of Medicine and no one at Stanford was involved in the study.

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And this should had been obvious if the media had just looked at his LinkedIn profile because no expert would ever include something like this in his/her education profile:

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Earned an A in Organic Chemistry.

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When I saw the guy on Tucker Carlson, it was clear that he was sketchy as frick. I also couldn’t stop wondering what the hell an “Advisor to Stanford Medical School” was or does. The guy wasn’t presented as an MD (yet, here he was trotting our supposed groundbreaking medical info). So, what is he supposed to be “advising” them on and why wouldn’t a preeminent med school trot out one of their many MDs to provide this info, rather than this sketchy dude?

Other countries can get this out to their citizens because they don’t have the fricked up legal system the US does that leads to forever lead times for drug approvals and reluctant doctors. I’m surprised Spencer, Gordon and Morris haven’t started chloroquine lawsuit commercials already. I’m sure they think this will be the next asbestos/Roundup level payday.

Hopeful Doc provided some great insight... just wanted to add (as a non medical professional) that Tiguar is a doc using it and JennBN indicated they were using it a patient.

Neither is using the azithromyacin in concert at this point, but I would expect that changes.

Remember that Hydroxychloroquine only reduced the viral load by 50% by itself but completely knocked the virus out when used in concert.

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the Federal government needs to start recommending its use

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FWIW, I don't give a frick what the federal government thinks when it comes to how I treat patients.



ETA- it's professional societies recommendation that holds weight. They're on top of things, generally speaking. You've got it a bit backwards though- the hesitancy to wholeheartedly recommend it from the top down is not them being unaware of it. It's because there isn't so much data that it needs to be used everywhere right now.

Thanks for your posts doc. Are you using the addition of Azithromycin with Chloroquine on any patients you see as appropriate?

And do you think that for patients without underlying health conditions that using this treatment can get the viral load to a self manageable state and out of high risk?

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I'm sure that was a gigantic sample size. I wonder what type of long term side effects this could have? But yea, let's just give it to everyone.

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The South Koreans successfully used it, and it is already an FDA approved drug. Getting enough of it, and getting it distributed, might be a problem, but there is no doubt about using it.