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re: China monitors citizens and penalizes bad social behavior

Posted on 4/25/18 at 8:14 am to
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
96253 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 8:14 am to
So, they're acting just like Google, FB and Twitter?

Good to know.
Posted by StupidBinder
Jawja
Member since Oct 2017
6392 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 8:15 am to
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Federal income tax. Social Security. Obamacare until this year.


How are those things using data to rate you?
Posted by StupidBinder
Jawja
Member since Oct 2017
6392 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 8:16 am to
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You don't consider facebook and google to be uber powerful unchecked governments?


You can’t be serious.

Facebook and google are governments?

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You sir, are a moron.
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
24359 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 8:17 am to
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How are those things using data to rate you?


The comment was that you can always opt out, and my response is: you certainly cannot always opt out, and in fact the rule for big government programs from the left is that they're designed so that everybody MUST participate.

Posted by Evil Little Thing
Member since Jul 2013
11638 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 8:18 am to
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So, they're acting just like Google, FB and Twitter


While these sites heavily track, do they punish us or assign ratings to us?
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86731 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 8:19 am to
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You don't consider facebook and google to be uber powerful unchecked governments? You sir, are a moron.



No. And you are a moron if you think this.

Now if you want to make the argument that our government uses FB and Google as tools to monitor us, then of course, you are correct.

Posted by StupidBinder
Jawja
Member since Oct 2017
6392 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 8:20 am to
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The comment was that you can always opt out, and my response is: you certainly cannot always opt out, and in fact the rule for big government programs from the left is that they're designed so that everybody MUST participate.


No, that wasn’t the comment. This is what I posted.

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If an entity in the US wanted to, say, come up with a metric based on social media to grade people, I really don’t see a problem with that because you can always opt out.


So, again, what does that have to do with Obamacare, SS and those other things you posted?
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
17854 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 8:23 am to
Black Mirror was right again.

Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
24359 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 8:24 am to
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because you can always opt out


Those are the literal words from your post that I responded to. The response is that you can't always opt out.
Posted by StupidBinder
Jawja
Member since Oct 2017
6392 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 8:27 am to
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Those are the literal words from your post that I cherry picked and took out of context so I could argue against a point you weren’t even making


FIFY
Posted by bird35
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
13734 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 8:31 am to
What good are 175 million cameras when everyone looks alike.





Oops, my score just dropped.

Posted by JackieTreehorn
Member since Sep 2013
35576 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 8:32 am to
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
19467 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 8:35 am to
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Now if you want to make the argument that our government uses FB and Google as tools to monitor us, then of course, you are correct.


That's obviously exactly what I meant, and everyone knows it
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
96253 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 8:37 am to
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do they punish us


FB and Twitter suspend accounts and delete posts all the time. Folks who care about such things consider this a punishment.

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assign ratings to us?


Google almost certainly does, internally, as part of their information sales model.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
92362 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 8:44 am to
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I really don’t see a problem with that because you can always opt out.
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So, again, what does that have to do with Obamacare, SS and those other things you posted?
Are you trolling?

^^^dude was clearly responding to that
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86731 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 8:45 am to
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That's obviously exactly what I meant, and everyone knows it


Well no, you called them actual governments.

Posted by StupidBinder
Jawja
Member since Oct 2017
6392 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 8:49 am to
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Are you trolling?


No.

quote:

dude was clearly responding to that


And he clearly took “that” out of context.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
103884 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 8:51 am to
With communists, expect communism
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
76781 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 8:51 am to
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give all its 1.4 billion citizens a personal score based on how they behave


sounds like a plan.
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
24359 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 8:53 am to
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Are you trolling? ^^^dude was clearly responding to that


Not worth it. When you realize a person is miserable, letting them be miserable is the best thing to do. Opt out.
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