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re: Chilling story regarding dissapearance of Malaysia flight 370
Posted on 6/20/19 at 9:49 am to WhiskeyThrottle
Posted on 6/20/19 at 9:49 am to WhiskeyThrottle
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The families being angry at the investigation is seemingly a misdirected form of mourning. No matter what the investigation shows, it won't bring their family back. We don't always get answers to questions in life. I am curious what Malaysia has changed about their air traffic control procedures. Based on reading the article, they don't seem to be very competent or willing to acknowledge any retrospection. I could see them maintaining status quo.
I am sure some of the families are angry and it is a form of grief. But I am also sure some are angry bc of how things were handled and due to the way they were handled policies and procedures cannot be improved upon.
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Posted on 6/20/19 at 9:53 am to Funky Tide 8
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I'll throw something else out there. What if the plane never came back to ground but instead kept climbing, to the point it left earth's atmosphere? I know that a space shuttle has insane amounts of thrust/force/speed to get off the ground and into space, but could a plane, already traveling at 40,000 feet doing 500+mph pull the nose up and just keep going? What if that plane was so fricking high that it just left the gravitational pull of the earth???!?
I love this question and thanks for asking it.
You win post of the day.
Upvote forthwith.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 10:02 am to lsu13lsu
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I'll throw something else out there. What if the plane never came back to ground but instead kept climbing, to the point it left earth's atmosphere? I know that a space shuttle has insane amounts of thrust/force/speed to get off the ground and into space, but could a plane, already traveling at 40,000 feet doing 500+mph pull the nose up and just keep going? What if that plane was so fricking high that it just left the gravitational pull of the earth???!?
Somebody get this man a medal
Posted on 6/20/19 at 10:05 am to Funky Tide 8
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I'll throw something else out there. What if the plane never came back to ground but instead kept climbing, to the point it left earth's atmosphere? I know that a space shuttle has insane amounts of thrust/force/speed to get off the ground and into space, but could a plane, already traveling at 40,000 feet doing 500+mph pull the nose up and just keep going? What if that plane was so fricking high that it just left the gravitational pull of the earth???!?
Roll Tide!!
Posted on 6/20/19 at 10:07 am to atrain5
Read last night... didn’t understand how they know the cabin was depressurized and killed everyone. Then repressurized so pilot could take his gas mask off.
Was it because they know it climbed to 40k feet quickly and that’s a reasonable assumption?
Was it because they know it climbed to 40k feet quickly and that’s a reasonable assumption?
This post was edited on 6/20/19 at 10:09 am
Posted on 6/20/19 at 10:13 am to The Mick
Why would the dude be depressed. Was it because the attendants on the flight were ugly as hell and he wasn't getting any while in Chiny. The dude/pilot was banging hot stewardesses. I would be happy as a mofo knowing I m fixing to hit hot Malaysian bitches. I don't except this assumption. But good read none the less.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 10:14 am to The Mick
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Was it because they know it climbed to 40k feet quickly and that’s a reasonable assumption?
They said it was a guess based on circumstances... climbing to 40k to accelerate the process and also the pilot either not wanting a plane full of unruly (not sure that would have mattered) or (in the case of mercy) scared passengers
Posted on 6/20/19 at 10:45 am to Slagathor
Not sure , but I think he could have put it on auto pilot after taking that crazy turn toward the middle of the ocean. At that point he does with them and the plane cruises until it runs out of fuel over the Pacific. Can’t believe there has was plotted simulation on his computer /home simulated.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 10:55 am to michael corleone
They covered that in the article. The thinking is that if it had simply run out of fuel it would have glided into the ocean and the breakup wouldn't have been as extreme as they think it was. Thus the belief that he went into a steep dive and flew it into the sea.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 11:05 am to TigersSEC2010
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Why did he have to take hundreds with him?
He wanted the record
Posted on 6/20/19 at 12:52 pm to baldona
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Is there not a protocol that if one of the pilots leaves the cockpit, a stewardess has to be in there? Seems like a bad idea to allow just one person alone?
It still blows my mind that we aren’t capable of tracking airlines no matter where they are. I understand there is some safety in that. But I’d think we could do some sort of 30 second delay ping of their location off of a satellite.
Eta: I’m not sure why this story is chilling, Pilot suicide was one of the very first theories.
Not sure how much help a flight attendant would be in the cockpit if something were to happen (insert dirty sex joke here).
The plane was getting 'and even flew over Malaysia (I think) military airspace and the military did nothing. Malaysia government/airlines even searched the wrong areas for a couple of days before heading out to where the figures it crashed.
I don't understand how the flight crew can turn off the transponder. That should be something that's always works.
Its chilling because very little of the aircraft has been found. You should YouTube the Silk air 185 crash that happened in Indonesia. That was also 'pilot suicide' yet two other agencies claimed it was mechanical.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 1:20 pm to dupergreenie
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Not sure how much help a flight attendant would be in the cockpit if something were to happen
Well they lock the door right? Maybe they don't and a flight attendant stands there? I'm thinking just practical things, like what if the Pilot has a stroke or heart attack while the copilot is taking a shite and playing tetris? Seems like there would be someone there in case of a natural emergency to help out? Or allow the co-pilot back in?
And things like this, I mean half the reason we have 2 pilots is so that one pilot doesn't go ape shite and kill everyone. Why do we need 2 pilots for a 45 minute flight otherwise?
Posted on 6/20/19 at 1:41 pm to 91TIGER
If you want to completely escape Earth's gravity and travel to another moon or planet, though, you need to be going even faster - at a speed of at least 7 miles per second or about 25,000 miles per hour.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 1:42 pm to dupergreenie
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I don't understand how the flight crew can turn off the transponder. That should be something that's always works.
I had to go back and re-read the thing about the depressurization... at first I mistakenly thought he had to kill all of the electrical stuff (including cabin pressure controls) to be able to kill the transponder, but it sounds like they're separate somehow.
Agreed, it's odd that that is something you can just turn off. I'm sure there's a reason for it (maybe one of the folks here could elaborate?).
This post was edited on 6/20/19 at 1:44 pm
Posted on 6/20/19 at 1:53 pm to Funky Tide 8
I see that air breathing engines are not your forte.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 1:54 pm to CaptSpaulding
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The cabin occupants would have become incapacitated within a couple of minutes, lost consciousness, and gently died without any choking or gasping for air.
If this is the case why don’t we use this method for the death penalty?
Posted on 6/20/19 at 2:15 pm to Slagathor
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kill all of the electrical stuff (including cabin pressure controls) to be able to kill the transponder, but it sounds like they're separate somehow.
of course you can turn off the transponder, you normally turn it on when you are ready to participate in the ATC system, you turn it off when you are finished, we leave ours on all of the time in flight, some carriers turn theirs off during extended flight outside of radar contact, and turn it on when approaching radar controlled airspace
Posted on 6/20/19 at 2:18 pm to 777Tiger
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of course you can turn off the transponder
Why wouldn't it be on all the time? I feel dumb, but at first blush it seems to me like something that shouldn't be open to being disabled by the operator.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 2:21 pm to Slagathor
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Why wouldn't it be on all the time?
it would clutter up the radar, think of all planes parked at the gate, the hangar, anywhere, leaving there transponders on, the radar is constantly interrogating and the transponders constantly reporting their positions
This post was edited on 6/20/19 at 2:23 pm
Posted on 6/20/19 at 2:28 pm to 777Tiger
That makes sense. 
You know there was zero training before I got my honorary wings
You know there was zero training before I got my honorary wings
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