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re: Chicago mayor is appealing for calm after releasing video of Adam Toledo shooting

Posted on 4/15/21 at 4:31 pm to
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24215 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 4:31 pm to
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I don't.

Someone that twitchy shouldn't be on the force.


Again, this is not an obtainable. High stress situations with deadly weapons is always going to be a situation where there is imperfect reactions that cause someone to die.

Expecting different is only going to lead to failure.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
143843 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 4:33 pm to
The difference between your “deer club” and a cop is the deer don’t shoot back.

Nice false equivalency.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
17592 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 4:34 pm to
quote:

Correct. Cops just need to stop pursuing suspects when the odds aren't in their favor. With cameras everywhere, that's the only solution.

Its really no different then high speed pursuits, in high stress situations cops just need to let perps run and catch them another day. That's the only way this will stop.


Who tf is saying that? Can we be reasonable here?

quote:

you can't understand why that kid turning around so quickly could cause someone to shoot you, I have 0 to say. That was a potentially deadly situation if the cops were there responding to shots fired. When the cops arrive you have to move slowly, fast movements are scary.


Sure, I understand cops chasing suspects are potentially dead situations. I don't negate that. The fact of the matter is the kid complied.

Look dude, I'm not claiming the officer is guilty of 1st degree murder. I'm not claiming the officer is racist and white supremacist or any of that bs.

The officer gave an order. The kid complied. The officer shot.
That is just not a good shoot no matter how you slice it.

Unless the goalposts have moved from comply or die to comply and die
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
19499 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 4:34 pm to
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Definitely cause for killing him


He definitely shouldn't have shot the kid in this situation

quote:

Should’ve been tucked into bed like a good 13 year old.


He would still be alive today however if he had been in bed at 2:30 am instead of shooting guns on the street
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
37071 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 4:34 pm to
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the cop said "show me your fricking hands" and "drop it", the kid did exactly that, and got shot. At no point was the gun pointed towards the officer. This isn't difficult to understand.


I don't have a desire to watch the video, but it sounds like this is what happened, and that is certainly concerning. Even if the kid was freaked out, it seems like he knew the jig was up and was doing what the cop was yelling at him to do.
Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
73096 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 4:34 pm to
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Wait, so he was shooting a fricking gun, and then running?

If the officer didnt actually see him toss it, I dont know how yall can be so freaking mad at this




You're fricked in the head dude
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
157967 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 4:35 pm to
Does she think BLM and antifa care about Adam?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 4:35 pm to
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The fact of the matter is the kid complied.


Yep

Can't support this one. However, the accomplice needs to be the one paying.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
66108 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 4:36 pm to
Once again a retard shows up reaching for someone to argue with or talk down to.

Come at me queerbait
This post was edited on 4/15/21 at 4:37 pm
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
14290 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 4:38 pm to
Call me what you want. I don’t care if the cop was right/wrong. I just cannot make myself feel sorry for people who choose to put themselves in this situation. White, black, hispanic, I don’t give a shite. When you act like a fricking idiot, this type of shite will happen to you

And I don’t want to hear shite about this kid being special ed. First, a lot of times, they just throw that title on troubled individuals who have issues getting promoted to the next grade. Second, if he was ‘mentally deficient’ and the parents are going to cry out for sympathy, then why in the frick were you letting your child run the streets at 2:30 in the morning with someone who was looking for trouble.

frick it, until I see some accountability from the criminal contingent of our population, I will just not give a frick about this shite
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 4:38 pm to
quote:

Can we be reasonable here?


Nope, most will choose sides based on limited info.

The person most at fault was the accomplice. The cop should be retrained or reassigned though.
Posted by Anonymous95
Member since Sep 2014
2101 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 4:39 pm to
Looks like the kid had a gun in his hand seconds before he turned around.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
37071 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 4:41 pm to
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Almost 1000 people shot in a "gun free" city.


This gets repeated all the time, and it's not true.

quote:

If you live in the city of Chicago, you can own firearms. However, you have to meet certain conditions:

You must be 21 years old or older
You must possess a firearm owner’s identification card (FOID)
You must have a concealed carry license if you intend to remove your gun from your home
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 4:42 pm to
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You must have a concealed carry license if you intend to remove your gun from your home


This is fricking stupid.
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
14290 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 4:42 pm to
quote:

This gets repeated all the time, and it's not true.


‘gun free’ just means you can’t open carry

Nice try though
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 4:43 pm to
quote:

The cop should be retrained or reassigned though.




Bootlicker!!×
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
20326 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 4:43 pm to
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Why the frick is a 13 year old out at 230 am?



Awful take away from this thread.

Horrible shoot by that cop.
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 4:44 pm to
This type of bullshite dismissal of the actions by everyone but the cop is why no one cares to the level you want.

If you can’t bring yourself to even acknowledge the actions of the deceased in these situations, then have your fun burning your neighborhoods while the rest of us move on.
This post was edited on 4/15/21 at 4:48 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 4:44 pm to
quote:

Awful take away from this thread.

Horrible shoot by that cop.


Its also a shitty situation to put any Cop in.

Most blame goes to the accomplice.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
20326 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 4:45 pm to
quote:

there was a gun found on the scene


Yeah, I bet there was. After a few fellow officers got there and saw what happened.

This was a joke...
This post was edited on 4/15/21 at 5:02 pm
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