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re: Chicago mayor is appealing for calm after releasing video of Adam Toledo shooting

Posted on 4/15/21 at 4:02 pm to
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
37697 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 4:02 pm to
quote:

Suspected of being involved in a shooting is more accurate. He did have a gun in the area a shooting occurred.


Fair enough.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
40030 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 4:03 pm to
That’s a pretty grainy image for a body cam and it definitely looks like his hand is empty. I would hope the cops vision is better than a go pro.

Like I said earlier, that helicopter strobe light did no favors.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
20387 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 4:03 pm to
"Even if you do exactly what a cop asks, having a gun makes the situation unsafe enough that a shooting would be justified"

I wonder how many people defending this shooting were saying that Army lieutenant should've just reached into the car to take his seatbelt off like they told him to.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104798 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 4:03 pm to
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respond to what? I don't even know what you are asking me

You clearly can see his right hand isnt holding a gun here?

Posted by Starcrunch37
Member since Apr 2021
115 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 4:04 pm to
The lil thug wasn’t unarmed he had a gun in his right hand and pointed it at the cop. I’m glad he’s dead
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68123 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 4:04 pm to

It's a still photo you dumbass
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 4:04 pm to
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Putting "police should shoot anyone holding a gun in case they decide not to drop it" in my notes.


This is usually the response of gun loving conservatives.

I chuckle at this as well.

*I'm not your normal conservative.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
40030 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 4:04 pm to
There is one dude on here defending it. Go ahead and chuckle at one guy because most of us are not.
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
22291 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 4:05 pm to
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You clearly can see his right hand isnt holding a gun here?

And?
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
22508 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 4:05 pm to
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You clearly can see his right hand isnt holding a gun here?


Imma let you die on this hill alone unfortunately.

Even worse, the only thing that's going to prevent these things is just to let perps walk from now on.

690,000 cops in the usa with a gun. You run from them and resist arrest, there's going to be some perps dying that shouldn't have been shot. We can't expect perfection, don't resist arrest or run from the police.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104798 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 4:05 pm to
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It's a still photo you dumbass
Yeh no shite, and that still photo shows you how his hand looks like it could be holding a gun

And an officer in pursuit of a suspect with a gun who had already fired said gun has a fricking split second to react

The judgement being placed on him seems so ridiculous to me in the specific instance
This post was edited on 4/15/21 at 4:06 pm
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
35388 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 4:06 pm to
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The officer shot him the second he turned around

I hear shots almost instantly as his hands go up


So unless the officer saw him ditch the gun, im not sure how yall are so mad
At that point, what could the kid have done to not get shot? He did exactly what the officer asked, right before getting shot.

I'm still tired of criminals getting no blame in these situations when they are shot by police, but this kid did what was asked and then still got shot
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
50666 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 4:06 pm to
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has the gun in his hand

Really because I don't see a gun
LINK
Posted by NorthTxLSU
Dallas to Austin
Member since Nov 2018
12322 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 4:06 pm to
quote:

You clearly can see his right hand isnt holding a gun here?


since you didn’t see it the first time smh

is that not clear enough for you?
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
58414 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 4:06 pm to
I said the kids hands were clearly in the air, I didn't say anything about a gun or whether one was visible


if that's even what you are referring to, if not I have no clue what you are trying to get at
This post was edited on 4/15/21 at 4:07 pm
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68123 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 4:06 pm to

Oy vey. Have some guac w your paint chips.
Posted by Tigerfan56
Member since May 2010
10526 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 4:06 pm to
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lsupride87


quote:

Ah, THIS IS SO CLEAR HIS RIGHT HAND DOESNT HAVE A GUN


I’m updating the standards to reflect:

comply and also make sure you do not have a small grainy still shot photo that makes it hard to tell for sure that you don’t have a gun
This post was edited on 4/15/21 at 4:08 pm
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
20387 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 4:06 pm to
"Why should an officer be able to tell if someone's holding a gun in person when I cant tell from a 300 pixel image?!"

You're a retard
Posted by Meauxjeaux
98836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
43768 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 4:07 pm to
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It's a still photo you dumbass


But when you watch it in real time, that's the flash you get as he turns around.

I had zero knowledge of this case prior to 5 minutes ago. Started reading here about an unarmed kid getting shot. Then watched the video...

...and it's terribly unfortunate, but the light, his dark clothes and the motion as he's turning around makes that 1/2 - second still appear to be a gun.

And then as I read some more it turns out the kid did have a gun prior?
Posted by Abraham H Parnassis
Member since Jul 2020
2623 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 4:08 pm to
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Where 585 homicides have occurred this year already
I don't think that's true.
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