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re: Charlie Kirk Assassinated at Utah Valley University

Posted on 9/10/25 at 8:14 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/10/25 at 8:14 pm to
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Ok, and what do we tell the people who just watched a foremost leader for the marketplace of ideas approach get assassinated?

I'm speaking generally.

Clearly there is going to be heightened emotions for many on the right for some time. A grieving period is fine. Nobody is saying otherwise.

Ramping up political polarity, though, isn't helping anyone in the long run.

Posted by OKBoomerSooner
Member since Dec 2019
5287 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 8:14 pm to
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Then tell progressives to stop referring to every conservative voice as a fascist, racist, sexist, etc., and meet in a debate of ideas, like Charlie Kirk was actually doing.

I don't get why this is directed at me, but yes, free speech and debate are good and killing people over politics is very bad.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 8:14 pm to
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Congrats on your Superbowl victory.

So fricking dumb.

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You killed another conservative influencer, you and your team are sooooo virtuous

Ok not dumb. Absolutely retarded.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
69572 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 8:15 pm to
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People get emotional/worked up easily these days. It doesn't mean they mean all the vitriol they spew.


It's not like they're going to get on top of buildings and take out people they've never met because they don't agree with their politics...oh wait!

Such a tool
Posted by Gifman
Captiva, FL
Member since Jan 2021
19589 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 8:15 pm to
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Congrats on your Superbowl victory. You killed another conservative influencer, you and your team are sooooo virtuous


SFP has zero emotional intelligence and is likely autistic. Give him some slack.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77933 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 8:15 pm to
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Do you think the people calling conservatives those things are also offering compassion in this instance?
100%

Every single media personality who has called conservatives those things is doing that.

Every progressive politician is currently doing it.

Hell, the same people in this thread who are “offering compassion” have done it as well.
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But it is fair to point out that these liberals never speak out against the far left liberals calling all conservatives nazis, Hitler, white supremacists etc. Besides a select few like Bill Maher.
100% true.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49830 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 8:15 pm to
The mfering shooter is at large
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
25014 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 8:16 pm to
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Hating whites? Seriously?

Ilyana?

If you take issue with hating whites, limit it to hating “conservatives” (who are primarily white)
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
89337 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 8:16 pm to
Posting the whole thing so people don't have to click. He's completely right
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I am told that as a state representative this is the moment where I'm supposed to express my heartfelt condolences and then stand in solidarity with those on the other side of the aisle as we condemn political violence and stand unified as one people.

But we aren't "one people" are we?

The truth is we haven't been for some time now, and there is really no point in pretending anymore, if there ever was.

We are two very different peoples. We may occupy the same piece of geography, but that is where the similarities seem to abruptly end.

I convinced myself for a long time that whenever the left called me a racist, a bigot, a sexist, a fascist, a "threat to democracy" for even the most innocent of disagreements, that it was simply hyperbolic rhetoric done for effect.

And now the "effect" is a widow and two orphaned children, because the left couldn’t bear the thought of a peaceful man debating them and winning.

I don’t think they realize it yet, but murdering Charlie is going to be remembered as the day where we finally woke up to what this fight really is.

It’s not a civil dispute among fellow countrymen. It’s a war between diametrically opposed worldviews which cannot peacefully coexist with one another. One side will win, and one side will lose.

Charlie tried to win that fight through argumentation, through discussion, through peaceful resolution of differences.

And the other side murdered him.

Not because he was “extreme” or “inciting violence” or any other hyperbolic slur they hurled at him. They murdered him because he was effective. Because he was unafraid. Because he inspired others and made them feel like they had a voice, that they were not alone. And he did it at the very institutions which have fomented so much hatred toward conservatives.

I don’t want to “stand in solidarity” with the other side of the aisle. I want to defeat you. I want to defeat the godless ideology that kills babies in the womb, sterilizes confused children, turns our cities into cesspools of degeneracy and lawlessness…and that murdered Charlie Kirk.

Social media is aflame right now with leftist celebration of Charlie’s death.

I wonder if any among them understand what has just happened. If there is a Yamamoto somewhere in their midst warning, that all they have done is awoken a sleeping giant.

I doubt it. I think they gave up such introspection and self-awareness long ago.

I don’t know exactly what will happen next. I just know that it won’t be the same as what has happened in the past.

There will be thoughts and prayers…Charlie would have wanted prayers. Not for himself but for those left behind and for the country that he loved.

But then there will be a reckoning.

My Christian faith requires me to love my enemies and pray for those who curse me. It does not require me to stand idly by in the midst of savagery and barbarism...quite the opposite.

So every time I feel tired, every time I feel discouraged or overwhelmed, I am going to watch the video of a good man being murdered in Utah…I will force myself to watch it…and then I will return to the work of destroying the evil ideology responsible for that and so much more.

Rest with God Charlie, your fight is over.

Ours is just beginning.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87718 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 8:16 pm to
I don't think there will be any sustained drop in temperature until the side doing most of the rhetoric spikes feels some of the heat, if we're being honest.

I'm not a prepper hoping for societal breakdown, I'm just being realistic. You can't have one side insulated from meaningful ramifications and expect them to change their course, especially when said side is increasingly led by radicals (or at least those espousing radical rhetoric).
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 8:16 pm to
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SFP has zero emotional intelligence and is likely autistic. Give him some slack.

I offered my immediate horror when the rumors first started. Why lie?

LINK

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If true this is terrible


That was when it was just rumored he was shot. Nothing close to rumors about death.
Posted by Mr Roboto
Seattle
Member since Jan 2023
8153 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 8:16 pm to
Very classy statement from Trump
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24278 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 8:17 pm to
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Well that was all more politically calculated, like with similar rhetoric used against Obama/Biden.


Sfp is so retarded he equates 3 people on td political
Talk to all of our institutions.

It's his debilitating feckless contrarianism.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 8:17 pm to
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Ilyana?

Your evidence is a schizophrenic who thought he had implants in his body telling him what to do?
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
89337 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 8:17 pm to
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Ramping up political polarity, though, isn't helping anyone in the long run.



Eat shite. We are divided. I want nothing to do with progressives and they clearly want me dead.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
75801 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 8:18 pm to
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It’s incredible you think we care. We just wait for y’all to crawl back to PT.


you’ve played the PT poster card at least 4 times in this thread. get new material.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 8:18 pm to
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Sfp is so retarded he equates 3 people on td political
Talk to all of our institutions.

Holy fricking shite you're reaching

Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
30521 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 8:18 pm to
I want to believe. I want to believe in the reckoning. I’m just afraid that this will all pass.
Posted by SUB
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Member since Jan 2009
26244 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 8:19 pm to
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Every single media personality who has called conservatives those things is doing that. Every progressive politician is currently doing it.


Ah. I was only thinking about everyday citizens. But you are right about those folks you mentioned.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 8:19 pm to
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The truth is we haven't been for some time now, and there is really no point in pretending anymore,


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