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re: Charlie Kirk Assassinated at Utah Valley University

Posted on 9/10/25 at 8:07 pm to
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
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Posted on 9/10/25 at 8:07 pm to
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None of that brainwashed people into hating whites and us now seeing the consequences of it unfold?

That would be a stretch at best. And we don’t even know who killed Kirk.
Posted by OKBoomerSooner
Member since Dec 2019
5287 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 8:08 pm to
Completely insane. I couldn't stand the guy and I still can't fathom why anyone would want to shoot him. Just stupid senseless evil. The temperature in this country needs to come way, way down.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
25014 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 8:09 pm to
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None of that brainwashed people into hating whites and us now seeing the consequences of it unfold? That's a silly framing.

How is that silly? We’ve seen multiple trans shooters the last few years because of all the rhetoric and lies the MSM spews.

It has motivated two different people to try to assassinate Trump

They’ve now assassinated Charlie

The “political puffery” is motivating real violence and if you think that’s silly or not real, I’m not sure how you’re dismissing it
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/10/25 at 8:09 pm to
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The temperature in this country needs to come way, way down.

Correct
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
124696 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 8:09 pm to
Kirk wanted to take away his handouts
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 9/10/25 at 8:09 pm to
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Obviously, horrific but folks here will act like they were diehard fans or that he was some substantial being for some movement (meanwhile it’s plain simple a father and husband was murdered today)


You’re not a conservative. He’s not on your radar. That doesn’t mean it’s right for you to downplay this incident.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87718 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 8:09 pm to
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Were you always like this or did media make you feel like you have soulless enemies because of fricking politics?


LOL - America's institutions, from healthcare to academia to the WH to media to sports - have spent a few years telling us that men can get pregnant and the biggest problem in America is white supremacist, while labeling us dangerous and subversive.

Total mystery where the bitterness comes from.
Posted by Dubosed
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Posted on 9/10/25 at 8:09 pm to
Yo mmmmbeeer get off your self righteous high horse.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/10/25 at 8:10 pm to
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That would be a stretch at best. And we don’t even know who killed Kirk.


I'm so glad you're back to frick this thread up some more. I see SFP is back too. Yay
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 9/10/25 at 8:10 pm to
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That would be a stretch at best.
if you don’t think black people hate white people - go work in social services for one day
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 9/10/25 at 8:10 pm to
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And we don’t even know who killed Kirk.

Come on dude. In the words of Portnoy

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Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 9/10/25 at 8:10 pm to
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The temperature in this country needs to come way, way down.

As quickly as possible.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 8:10 pm to
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How is that silly?


Hating whites? Seriously?
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77933 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 8:11 pm to
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The temperature in this country needs to come way, way down.
Then tell progressives to stop referring to every conservative voice as a fascist, racist, sexist, etc., and meet in a debate of ideas, like Charlie Kirk was actually doing.

Have them stop threatening violence or calling in bomb threads every time a conservative goes to talk on campus.
This post was edited on 9/10/25 at 8:12 pm
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87718 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 8:11 pm to
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The hyper-polar political scenarios do not end well. Even if your side wins, you'll be living in an authoritarian shithole for some time thereafter.



Ok, and what do we tell the people who just watched a foremost leader for the marketplace of ideas approach get assassinated?
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 9/10/25 at 8:12 pm to
Get off the internet. Normal people are still normal.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/10/25 at 8:12 pm to
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Then tell progressives to stop referring to every conservative voice as a fascist, racist, sexist, etc., and meet in a debate of ideas, like Charlie Kirk was actually doing.


And maybe stop with the assassinations
Posted by Lou
Modesto, CA
Member since Aug 2005
8983 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 8:12 pm to
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Any updates on the killer?
My source tells me that it was a professional hit. Long range sniper bullet precisely in the artery in his neck, he was likely dead before he hit the ground. The Bernie Sanders dude pictured earlier had nothing to do with it. Eyewitnesses know that man, and he isn't a killer. Probably never shot a gun in his life or even knows how, per the people there that know him personally. FBI has already released him.
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 9/10/25 at 8:12 pm to
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Progressives have called conservatives fascists, Nazis, Hitler, etc., for years, and then turn around and offer their sympathies when something bad happens?


Do you think the people calling conservatives those things are also offering compassion in this instance? I’m not so sure. I’d be more inclined to believe that the opposite is true, that they are more likely the ones celebrating his death. But it is fair to point out that these liberals never speak out against the far left liberals calling all conservatives nazis, Hitler, white supremacists etc. Besides a select few like Bill Maher.
This post was edited on 9/10/25 at 8:14 pm
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
33985 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 8:13 pm to
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I am told that as a state representative this is the moment where I'm supposed to express my heartfelt condolences and then stand in solidarity with those on the other side of the aisle as we condemn political violence and stand unified as one people.

But we aren't "one people" are we?

The truth is we haven't been for some time now, and there is really no point in pretending anymore, if there ever was.

We are two very different peoples. We may occupy the same piece of geography, but that is where the similarities seem to abruptly end.

I convinced myself for a long time that whenever the left called me a racist, a bigot, a sexist, a fascist, a "threat to democracy" for even the most innocent of disagreements, that it was simply hyperbolic rhetoric done for effect.

And now the "effect" is a widow and two orphaned children, because the left couldn’t bear the thought of a peaceful man debating them and winning.

I don’t think they realize it yet, but murdering Charlie is going to be remembered as the day where we finally woke up to what this fight really is.

It’s not a civil dispute among fellow countrymen. It’s a war between diametrically opposed worldviews which cannot peacefully coexist with one another. One side will win, and one side will lose.

Charlie tried to win that fight through argumentation, through discussion, through peaceful resolution of differences.

And the other side murdered him.

Not because he was “extreme” or “inciting violence” or any other hyperbolic slur they hurled at him. They murdered him because he was effective. Because he was unafraid. Because he inspired others and made them feel like they had a voice, that they were not alone. And he did it at the very institutions which have fomented so much hatred toward conservatives.

I don’t want to “stand in solidarity” with the other side of the aisle. I want to defeat you. I want to defeat the godless ideology that kills babies in the womb, sterilizes confused children, turns our cities into cesspools of degeneracy and lawlessness…and that murdered Charlie Kirk.

Social media is aflame right now with leftist celebration of Charlie’s death.

I wonder if any among them understand what has just happened. If there is a Yamamoto somewhere in their midst warning, that all they have done is awoken a sleeping giant.

I doubt it. I think they gave up such introspection and self-awareness long ago.

I don’t know exactly what will happen next. I just know that it won’t be the same as what has happened in the past.

There will be thoughts and prayers…Charlie would have wanted prayers. Not for himself but for those left behind and for the country that he loved.

But then there will be a reckoning.

My Christian faith requires me to love my enemies and pray for those who curse me. It does not require me to stand idly by in the midst of savagery and barbarism...quite the opposite.

So every time I feel tired, every time I feel discouraged or overwhelmed, I am going to watch the video of a good man being murdered in Utah…I will force myself to watch it…and then I will return to the work of destroying the evil ideology responsible for that and so much more.

Rest with God Charlie, your fight is over.

Ours is just beginning
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