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re: CDC appears to be in full panic mode over positive results of ivermectin against Covid

Posted on 8/26/21 at 8:55 pm to
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
36412 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 8:55 pm to
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Doctors are being gaslighted into not accepting anything positive, except for vaccine outcomes


Yes the people who have devoted considerable amount of time and education to treating patients aren’t smart enough to see through the lies but you can.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
129240 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 8:56 pm to
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Just tell your Dr to document in your file that you requested the prescription. It gives him cover in your chart


Lol thats not how it works
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41337 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 8:58 pm to
I’m coming into this thread late and drunk (fantasy draft) has there been a study on ivermectin’s effectiveness against early onset of symptoms? On use as preventative care?

If so, has it been linked in this thread? Can someone send it to me? I’ll read it tomorrow when I’m not seeing double.
Posted by Sput
Member since Mar 2020
9088 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 9:01 pm to
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but they think


I see the problem
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41337 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 9:01 pm to
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Our hospital used HCQ as standard protocol March and April 2020

They stopped because it didnt work. At least on inpatients



When did they use it? I’ve heard, completely anecdotally, that HCQ used as a preventative or when used at the onset of symptoms is very effective.

When used in late stage/vent use, not so much.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33359 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 9:01 pm to
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It's always random videos off youtube

It was a live presser of an official covering the change in policy for Japan. Just like any health official at the CDC, FDA, or NIH having a presser

It aint rocket surgery
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
15958 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 9:04 pm to
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But a whole lot of tards are calling it a cure


This is why it got so much push back. The pro HCQ and Ivermectin crowds tout it as a cure and all you have to do survive Covid is take these.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
36412 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 9:08 pm to
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It was a live presser of an official covering the change in policy for Japan.


I can find absolutely nothing indicating that this guy has any sort of official capacity along the lines of the cdc nih etc and nowhere that says Japan is mass instituting ivermectin
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
36412 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 9:10 pm to
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When did they use it? I’ve heard, completely anecdotally, that HCQ used as a preventative or when used at the onset of symptoms is very effective.


Somehow this is always the response when people cite examples of hcq not working.

Kinda like how communism has never failed because it’s never been done correctly
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41337 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 9:11 pm to
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This is the same nation was where the Delta variant originated and then proceeded to slam the country. Remember bodies piling up in the street? and within a 28-day period, they reduced cases by 95%!! All because they mass prescribed ivermectin to everyone


Devils advocate, could this be because of the nature of the delta variant and the Fact that India has essentially congested living everywhere? With the speed of spread of delta and the acknowledged rapid rise and fall of cases, could this be chalked up to “India being India?”
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
37724 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 9:12 pm to
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gO To TraCToR SuPPly & gEt yOuR hORse mEDicIne


YoU sOUNd LiKE a frickInG IdIoT
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41337 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 9:13 pm to
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Japan is in hail Mary mode - they're trying everything they can.


How is that possible? They are 99% mask compliant
Posted by saderade
America's City
Member since Jul 2005
26243 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 9:13 pm to
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It was a live presser of an official covering the change in policy for Japan. Just like any health official at the CDC, FDA, or NIH having a presser
Link?? Because this is a direct quote from the Japanese health minister
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Japan's health ministry's COVID-19 treatment guidelines revised in July places ivermectin in a category of drugs whose efficacy and safety have not been established.
LINK
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
15958 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 9:14 pm to
That article about India never says anything about Ivermectin and the Japanese Dr contradicts himself a few times and still says the data is inconclusive.
Posted by saderade
America's City
Member since Jul 2005
26243 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 9:15 pm to
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India experienced a decrease in the number of COVID-19 cases in May 2021. However, no data is available to support the claim that this is causally associated with the recommendation to use ivermectin. The reduced spread of the disease began before India released official recommendations to use that drug. In spite of several clinical studies, no reliable evidence is available to suggest that hydroxychloroquine or ivermectin are effective against COVID-19. At the moment, international health agencies and scientific societies discourage using these drugs to treat COVID-19, except in clinical trials designed to assess their efficacy
Can anyone link a legitimate medical organization in the US or Europe that recommends the use of Ivermectin outside of clinical trials ? For the record I’m happy large scale studies are occurring.
This post was edited on 8/26/21 at 9:20 pm
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41337 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 9:16 pm to
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thought Covid wasn’t a big deal? Given the survival rate why would anyone need the horse paste?


Because retard government officials are curtailing freedoms and putting in place worthless yet visible and punitive restrictions.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91320 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 9:16 pm to
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It was a live presser of an official covering the change in policy for Japan. Just like any health official at the CDC, FDA, or NIH having a presser

It aint rocket surgery


It was a video from February 9th, 2021 of a doctor in Japan who is ASKING the government to approve ivermectin for use in Covid patients.

Did you actually click on the link in the tweet?
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
37724 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 9:17 pm to
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Anecdotal but they think roughly an equal amount of ivermectin vs non ivermectin treated patients are progressing to hospitalization


Link? The data is indicating more often than not that Ivermectin as a Prophylactic and early treatment protocol is quite effective. Sorry that doesn’t fit your dream of a Vaccine being the only effective protocol. But it seems to be the case.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41337 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 9:18 pm to
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don't even know why we need MDs and researchers anymore. We got random guys on TD telling us all we need to know. I bet that they even took a biology class in highschool once.


Hurrr de durrr everyone note associated with a university or hospital has no way of actually being able to amylase data!!!! Hurt de durrr! You peons are sooooooo stupid!!!
Posted by tigerbutt
Deep South
Member since Jun 2006
26105 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 9:19 pm to
Just ordered 100 ivermectin from Canada for only $150. They want $40 for 5 pills here in the US. Ridiculous.
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