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re: Catholic school fires Louisiana band director after husband's obituary reveals he is gay

Posted on 7/3/25 at 9:35 am to
Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
16969 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 9:35 am to
Just another pervert catholic
Posted by StrongOffer
Member since Sep 2020
6400 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 9:37 am to
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Pre-marital sex is a sin also. Did you, or do you engage in that? Why is homosexuality judged more harshly?
It's not judged more harshly. A teacher who has a kid out of wedlock would also be fired.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
38017 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 9:58 am to
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It's not judged more harshly. A teacher who has a kid out of wedlock would also be fired.

But would a teacher shacking up with his her heterosexual boyfriend/girlfriend be fired? Or someone who was divorced and remarried without their first marriage being annulled by the church?
This post was edited on 7/3/25 at 10:01 am
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
23072 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 10:02 am to
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Or someone who was divorced and remarried without their first marriage being annulled by the church?


This one for sure has happened. As far as shackling up, this one is much grayer area. In this teacher case, there weren’t merely living together but they were married.
Posted by N2cars
Close by
Member since Feb 2008
38091 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 10:02 am to
Yes.

No.
Posted by StrongOffer
Member since Sep 2020
6400 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 10:04 am to
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But would a teacher shacking up with his her heterosexual boyfriend/girlfriend be fired?
The school isn't in the bedroom, just like they weren't in this guy's bedroom. It only became a problem when there was evidence, like a pregnancy would. These two scenarios are exactly the same. If they found out an unmarried teacher was living with their bf/gf, they could very well be fired.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Member since Dec 2013
18452 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 10:05 am to
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Catholic school fires Louisiana band director after husband's obituary reveals he is gay


Imagine what would happen if they fired all the gay priests.
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
24901 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 10:08 am to
No wonder he was so good at blowing a horn
Posted by IamNotaRobot
OKC
Member since Nov 2021
1638 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 10:12 am to
Sounds like some big donor who probably didn’t like the director in the first place got wind of the obituary and forced the schools hand. Is what it is. The school sounds like they are chickenshit though. They knew he was not honoring the morality clause and hired him anyways.
Posted by Kjnstkmn
Vermilion Parish
Member since Aug 2020
19712 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 10:15 am to
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It’s just a stab in the back



See there’s your problem.

And no-one asked for the gritty details.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
69166 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 10:16 am to
I side with the gay band geek, but anyone who signs a contract with a "wink and a nod" should understand that enforcement is almost certainly a matter of when, not if.

Now I wonder how well they could prove homosexual acts were performed.
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
3802 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 10:22 am to
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I side with the gay band geek, but anyone who signs a contract with a "wink and a nod" should understand that enforcement is almost certainly a matter of when, not if.


So I guess since priests don't have to sign contracts stating that they will not frick little boys, they just get transferred instead of being fired?

That makes sense. "Morality clause".
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
32197 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 10:26 am to
Man this thread went off the rails....

Go figure...OT never ceases to amaze me...
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30047 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 10:28 am to
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quote:
If the school knew he was openly gay and just now decided to do something does he not have any legal recourse?


No


Reading the initial post and a few of the subsequent ones, and knowing we have a lot of attorneys here, I thought given the length of the thread there would be a lively legal discussion, but nope, the legal side was summed up with simply "no".

Setting aside the fact the jurisdiction is Louisiana, which is an oddball legal state, but less odd every day, there is actually a very strong possibility, given the limited details, that the contract clause is not enforceable now.

There is a strong chance (in most states) if the school knew of the breach for years, there is now an implied waiver of conduct, rendering the clause unenforceable for that particular breach.

A couple of analogies that are likely known by laymen are:

failure to enforce intellectual property rights can result in losing the rights

use it or lose it

If it can be shown "the school" through its agents knew of the breach for some period of time without action it is very likely there is a waiver of conduct. The answer is far from a simple "no" but that is almost always the case in law.


Posted by Azranod
The Land of crooked letters and I's
Member since Oct 2013
1197 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 10:36 am to
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which by the way is against the teachings of the Catholic Church and the old testament


Are we all members of the Nation of Israel? The Old Testament is about the establishing of the Nation of Israel and God's covenant with them. We are held to the covenant of the New Testament.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
62817 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 10:36 am to
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What Jesus did not says, is I accept you and all your sin, now go and live you life as you see fit and I'll accept you no matter what.

People who love their sin conveniently over look this.


It's just this simple. He didn't tell the adulteress to go forth and commit more adultery.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
63025 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 10:40 am to
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WWJD?


Jesus would have given him the opportunity to repent of his sins, publicly reject his past sinful behavior, and follow Him.

If he refused to do this, Jesus would have done exactly what the school did here: remove him from His presence.
This post was edited on 7/3/25 at 10:41 am
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
3802 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 10:45 am to
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the old testament

Are we all members of the Nation of Israel?... We are held to the covenant of the New Testament.

So we don't have to abide by that whole "Thou shall not kill" clause anymore?
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
69166 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 10:47 am to
what is that nonsense you just spewed? Are you upset?
Posted by John Casey
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2016
3747 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 11:06 am to
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But would a teacher shacking up with his her heterosexual boyfriend/girlfriend be fired?


Probably.

I had friends that moved in together a few months before wedding and the gal was a teacher at a local Catholic school. They had to keep it hush hush that they moved in together because she was worried about the morality clause and the potential of it being used against her.
This post was edited on 7/4/25 at 7:55 am
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