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Posted on 4/16/16 at 1:00 pm to lsupride87
Explain your scenario where it would make sense to have the gun out and not use it.
Posted on 4/16/16 at 1:02 pm to lsupride87
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The issue with this theory, is the fact that Smiths attorney said that Will approached Hayes vehicle, not the other way around.
I don't fault him for approaching Hayes' at all, being that he was rear-ended by it. This does not explain how Smith was shot at the door of his vehicle in the back seven times and taking his last breath slumped over his steering wheel.
If Smith had 7 entry wounds through his chest AND died in close proximity of Hayes' vehicle, I can possibly see a defense claim.
Posted on 4/16/16 at 1:03 pm to 4LSU2
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The angle you are going for here does not exist without Hayes standing over Smith with a gun in his hand,
so you are saying you are speculating?
I could easily say "Hayes doenst shoot Will Smith unless he has a gun".
Do you see how that goes?
What you think happened in your head does not equal real life.
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Was he the one shot 7 times in his back?
Ok, so you are citing all these "facts", yet you arent up to date on the case?
No, not Will Smith. Go read up.
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If he did not have a gun in his hands when Smith supposedly said "I have a gun too", how do you explain the 7 gun shotS in his back?
Can you tell me in detail where Will Smith's gun was recovered? Or are you just speculating as fact again?
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I still 1,000 believe Orenthal James Simpson killed Nicole and Ron Goldman. The police botched the case, but he killed those two.
Well, we know Hayes killed Smith. We just dont know if it was justified. But apparently you are the only one that knows the facts that arent even out yet.
Posted on 4/16/16 at 1:04 pm to LNCHBOX
Shirtless man and smith scuffle with Hayes
Mrs smith is able to retrieve gun
Hayes shoots her
Then shoots smith
He then slams gun on his car and let's it go like witnesses have already said
Hayes no longer has gun in hand, as witnesses said
Hayes calls over a witness and asks them to call 911, as his attorney alleges
There is now 4 minutes of time
4 minutes before the cops come
One of smiths friends takes the gun that they now see on the ground and puts it away
That is my possible scenario
Mrs smith is able to retrieve gun
Hayes shoots her
Then shoots smith
He then slams gun on his car and let's it go like witnesses have already said
Hayes no longer has gun in hand, as witnesses said
Hayes calls over a witness and asks them to call 911, as his attorney alleges
There is now 4 minutes of time
4 minutes before the cops come
One of smiths friends takes the gun that they now see on the ground and puts it away
That is my possible scenario
This post was edited on 4/16/16 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 4/16/16 at 1:05 pm to lsupride87
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Shirtless manic and smith scuffle with Hayes
Where are the scuffle marks on Hayes?
Posted on 4/16/16 at 1:06 pm to 4LSU2
That wasn't my point. Your theory is Hayes rammed Smith intentional to kick his arse
If you are chasing someone to kick their arse, wouldn't you get out of your vehicle quickly after contact to go commence said arse kicking?
If you are chasing someone to kick their arse, wouldn't you get out of your vehicle quickly after contact to go commence said arse kicking?
Posted on 4/16/16 at 1:07 pm to uptownsage
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a retired NOPD officer who may have been at the scene of the shooting
I would be there too if I had heard that my friend, who I just had dinner with, had been injured or worse.
Posted on 4/16/16 at 1:07 pm to 4LSU2
quote:Not sure
Where are the scuffle marks on Hayes?
However, we have witnesses speaking of an altercation between Hayes, Smith, and a shirtless man. We do not yet know if or what type of physical contact was made
Notice how I said " possible scenario"
Not fact or I know
This post was edited on 4/16/16 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 4/16/16 at 1:07 pm to Lester Earl
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You are exactly what has been wrong with these threads. You get mad when a FACT makes you upset, and go on to call names and throw out the troll bull shite.
Alright - I'll bite and play by your rules. . You said Will Smith has a longer rap sheet than the murderer, Hayes. I disagree. Prove your point and let's see who has the longer rap sheet. I'll wait....
Posted on 4/16/16 at 1:09 pm to lsupride87
Anyone think Impala was uber dude driving couple?
Posted on 4/16/16 at 1:10 pm to lsupride87
So these people that just watched heir friends get shot are going to be more concerned with hiding evidence them the fact that their friends just got shot?
Can you please just agree that it's a huge reach and highly unlikely? I have no problem with acknowledging it could have happened. But it is vey far down the list on likely scenarios.
Can you please just agree that it's a huge reach and highly unlikely? I have no problem with acknowledging it could have happened. But it is vey far down the list on likely scenarios.
Posted on 4/16/16 at 1:10 pm to Chad504boy
That would suck 
His Impala is now impounded meaning he is out of work
His Impala is now impounded meaning he is out of workPosted on 4/16/16 at 1:10 pm to LNCHBOX
No. I will not say it is a huge reach. At all
It is unlikely.
Hell, I think there is a chance they moved the gun not for "tampering purposes" even
It is unlikely.
Hell, I think there is a chance they moved the gun not for "tampering purposes" even
This post was edited on 4/16/16 at 1:12 pm
Posted on 4/16/16 at 1:13 pm to lsupride87
The only thing I have doubts about at this time, is what part of the puzzle Pierre Thomas plays. The tweets, fb posts, and him leaving town on Monday after the events do not make sense to me.
Posted on 4/16/16 at 1:15 pm to lsupride87
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One of smiths friends takes the gun that they now see on the ground and puts it away
If I was Smith's friend I think I would have took the gun and kept on me for my protection since Hayes is still at the scene.Why would I hide the gun when I just witnessed two of my friends being shot one shot to death? The guy is still there on the scene and i hide the gun ? Wouldn't I get the gun for my own protection if needed?
This post was edited on 4/16/16 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 4/16/16 at 1:17 pm to rantfan
I agree. I am not suggesting that the gun was purposefully moved for tampering/hiding purposes. It is a chaotic situation. I don't think it is a huge reach to say if that gun was out that it got moved in that 4 minute window
Posted on 4/16/16 at 1:17 pm to lsupride87
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No. I will not say it is a huge reach. At all
Well then I'll no longer try to have a rational discussion with you
This post was edited on 4/16/16 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 4/16/16 at 1:20 pm to LNCHBOX
So it is a huge reach to say a gun was moved in a 4 minute window in a chaotic scene?
That makes me irrational?
That makes me irrational?
Posted on 4/16/16 at 1:23 pm to lsupride87
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So it is a huge reach to say a gun was moved in a 4 minute window in a chaotic scene?
That makes me irrational?
we can't measure reaches. you're either assuming or not assuming.
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