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re: Carbs and weight - then vs now
Posted on 10/17/16 at 10:36 pm to Honky Lips
Posted on 10/17/16 at 10:36 pm to Honky Lips
No but the avg serving size was a much smaller
Posted on 10/17/16 at 10:38 pm to Honky Lips
People walked to get from one place to another.
Posted on 10/17/16 at 11:07 pm to Jim Rockford
"Good God Man!"
How is it that when I use wiki to look up carbohydrate and look up how many times glucose (sugar) is mentioned, I get 39 hits? Carbohydrates = blood sugar rising ... some at different rates, but still - it is going up.
How is it, I can overeat and stuff my self with 4,000+ "calories" of food each and every day for a month and not gain weight? Probably because I am eating fatty meats and loads of saturate fats.
Or maybe, if we find our baseline of "calories" to not gain weight, then replace some calories with ethanol calories....why in the hell did they lose weight? Opps, they just broke your calorie is a calorie theory.....in 1972. Do you want to know why the caloric theory is wrecked? It is not some straight physics equation like the "experts" want you to believe. It is a biological equation/problem.
Overeating prisoners refuse to gain calculated weight
Summary: It disproves the caloric theory because they didn't gain nearly as much as expected, despite eating 9-10,000 calories per day.
In short - Ask yourself, "Why did Atkins work for so many, yet they found it hard to maintain?" The answer - because Atkins had them eating what they were suppose to. The reason they were having such a hard time was that they were breaking their addiction to sugar and pre-sugar, aka carbs. The food eaten in the 50s had sat fats = less weight and more healthy.
I am going to bed because I've already stated and backed up my position on this subject in previous post. There is a reason the Food Board has over 500+ pages of people losing weight...
How is it that when I use wiki to look up carbohydrate and look up how many times glucose (sugar) is mentioned, I get 39 hits? Carbohydrates = blood sugar rising ... some at different rates, but still - it is going up.
How is it, I can overeat and stuff my self with 4,000+ "calories" of food each and every day for a month and not gain weight? Probably because I am eating fatty meats and loads of saturate fats.
Or maybe, if we find our baseline of "calories" to not gain weight, then replace some calories with ethanol calories....why in the hell did they lose weight? Opps, they just broke your calorie is a calorie theory.....in 1972. Do you want to know why the caloric theory is wrecked? It is not some straight physics equation like the "experts" want you to believe. It is a biological equation/problem.
Overeating prisoners refuse to gain calculated weight
Summary: It disproves the caloric theory because they didn't gain nearly as much as expected, despite eating 9-10,000 calories per day.
In short - Ask yourself, "Why did Atkins work for so many, yet they found it hard to maintain?" The answer - because Atkins had them eating what they were suppose to. The reason they were having such a hard time was that they were breaking their addiction to sugar and pre-sugar, aka carbs. The food eaten in the 50s had sat fats = less weight and more healthy.
I am going to bed because I've already stated and backed up my position on this subject in previous post. There is a reason the Food Board has over 500+ pages of people losing weight...
This post was edited on 10/17/16 at 11:08 pm
Posted on 10/17/16 at 11:19 pm to Junky
I see what everyone is saying. Here is my situation:
- I don't eat sweets, ANY. never have, always hated them
-same with sodas
-i cook our family dinners from scratch, never using "boxed" stuff or anything like that. I don't even buy chicken stock instead I make my own
-carbs, I don't avoid them but I dont seek them out
And all if this and I still struggle keeping my weight down.
- I don't eat sweets, ANY. never have, always hated them
-same with sodas
-i cook our family dinners from scratch, never using "boxed" stuff or anything like that. I don't even buy chicken stock instead I make my own
-carbs, I don't avoid them but I dont seek them out
And all if this and I still struggle keeping my weight down.
Posted on 10/18/16 at 12:00 am to Martini
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And yes I'm old enough to remember my mother handing the car keys to one of the Wade Lemoine Esso attendants and he opened the trunk and would exchange the wooden case of empty Coke bottles with a fresh one. Those few Cokes were about the extent of our sugar.
Can't count the bottles I picked up to trade in, sucks that they removed this incentive for kids to get off their arse and do something to make some cash along with pick up litter and replaced it with trashy arse plastic bottles.
A Coke with a stage plank or some Mary Janes was a real treat.
Posted on 10/18/16 at 5:33 am to Honky Lips
quote:
I see what everyone is saying. Here is my situation: - I don't eat sweets, ANY. never have, always hated them -same with sodas -i cook our family dinners from scratch, never using "boxed" stuff or anything like that. I don't even buy chicken stock instead I make my own -carbs, I don't avoid them but I dont seek them out And all if this and I still struggle keeping my weight down.
Good for you that you are taking this serious. However, I am betting you are still inadvertently getting a "sugar fix" from some food source.
Read the book called "Whole 30". I am not telling you to strictly follow it or subscribe to it in detail. Just look for a copy at a second hand bookstore or at the library. It really opened my eyes to sugar as the key to my constant food cravings and weight loss.
Posted on 10/18/16 at 6:43 am to Honky Lips
Have you ever tracked calories/macros, just for the data? I'd recommend tracking with my fitness pal, and even measuring for a week.
You might be eating more than you think, or have macros out of whack.
You might be eating more than you think, or have macros out of whack.
Posted on 10/18/16 at 6:58 am to LSUfan20005
Fat people who used to not get laid in the old times are now able to due to technology/transportation. Their kids are now predetermined to gain/maintain fat due to the way they're raised.
Posted on 10/18/16 at 7:20 am to CourtesyFlush
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Portion sizes exploded
Part of it.
- We live a far more sedentary lifestyle
- Cheap, processed food is easier than ever to get (fast food)
- Portion sizes are blowing up
- Fat shaming has stopped
Posted on 10/18/16 at 8:01 am to AUCE05
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Welcome to Keto, brother.
Thanks, I have no idea what to call it but it is amazing how well it works.
I should also add that I am eating fish and small portions of fruit for "treats".
And I will say it again....."I am never really hungry."
I should have done this two decades ago.
Posted on 10/18/16 at 9:21 am to SECdragonmaster
Get off wheat and grains. Go pick up a book called Wheat Belly by a Cardiologist named Dr. William Davis. Your eyes will be opened to the food industry and how it works and how so many body systems are affected. Basically you need to eat protein, some fruits, nuts, and veggies. You will be amazed at how many foods have wheat or other processed starches or syrups that actually make you crave and be more addicted to food.
Posted on 10/18/16 at 9:37 am to Balloon Huffer
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No, they cooked real food. No boxes, no processed. No dehydrated. No bleached flour, no "enriched" anything (enriched sounds like a good thing right?)
This is periphery- a side factor but not the main factor. I know plenty of people that eat shitty foods almost exclusively but they don't eat much in terms of volume.
The number one reason America is full of fatties is portion size. It's about calories in vs. calories out and it's as simple as that. You're right in that a pound of broccoli fills you up for 100 calories (as opposed to two bites of a cookie for 100 calories) but that's not a factor if you're only taking in 2,000 calories a day.
The number two reason America is full of fatties is our sedentary lifestyle. When I was a kid, I ate candy, McDonald's, healthy foods, non-healthy foods, carbs, sugars, and anything I could get my hands on. I also played football, basketball, hide-and-go seek, freeze tag and any other game I could convince someone to play. I didn't stop moving from sunup to sundown and my mom had to force me inside for a bath at the end of the day. As a result, I was skinny as a rail. And so was every other kid in my class. Go look at a year book from the 1950s, 60s or 70s. Everyone was thin.
Posted on 10/18/16 at 9:41 am to GRTiger
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I know what is called fat these days was called healthy, and even sexy back then.
that is just false on so many levels. Don't look to the O-T calling Kate Upton a whale as evidence to your point.
When talking about fat people in reality we are talking about what you see at Walmart.
quote:LINK
According to an analysis of the latest government statistics, a staggering 40 percent of women now meet the criteria for being obese. That means that their body mass index, or BMI, is 30 or higher. So, a 5-foot-9-inch woman would weigh more than 203 pounds. The numbers, published Tuesday, were based on data collected in 2013 and 2014 from a nationally representative sample of 2,638 adult men (with an average age of 47 years) and 2,817 women (with an average age of 48 years).
the average women is about the size of the average male in 1950. I really don't think men back then would be jumping on it.
This post was edited on 10/18/16 at 9:42 am
Posted on 10/18/16 at 9:42 am to Honky Lips
quote:
I see what everyone is saying. Here is my situation: - I don't eat sweets, ANY. never have, always hated them -same with sodas -i cook our family dinners from scratch, never using "boxed" stuff or anything like that. I don't even buy chicken stock instead I make my own -carbs, I don't avoid them but I dont seek them out And all if this and I still struggle keeping my weight down.
It doesn't matter about the sweets, soda intake, carbs or what you're making from scratch. Let me ask you two questions:
1) How many calories are you taking in a day?
2) How many calories are you burning a day?
If you want to lose weight, burn more than you take in. It's that simple. Sure, eating fruits and veggies helps to curb those cravings and make you feel fuller than sweets but honestly- keep your weight under control comes down to a simple math equation.
Posted on 10/18/16 at 10:15 am to ClientNumber9
I considered starting a new thread but will see if I get any good responses in this one. I'm about 40 and two of my favorite activities are exercise and eating. I've started eating healthier over the years but also have at least a couple of overeating days per week.
I've read a little about nutrition for preparation of extreme endurance events (marathon/tri) and also about post-exercise nutrition. However, I've struggled to find good information about 24 hr nutrition tips for something like playing basketball.
For example, I'm playing in a league on weeknights. What should I be eating the night before, lunch, snack before? I know that carbs with low GI is better than with high GI. What is the ideal number of hours before the game to eat? What are the best carbs (in moderate intake) for peak performance?
I've read that caffeine should be avoided but does that only apply to endurance events? When I get a moderate to high dose of caffeine before playing basketball, I feel like my focus and overall athleticism is better.
I've read a little about nutrition for preparation of extreme endurance events (marathon/tri) and also about post-exercise nutrition. However, I've struggled to find good information about 24 hr nutrition tips for something like playing basketball.
For example, I'm playing in a league on weeknights. What should I be eating the night before, lunch, snack before? I know that carbs with low GI is better than with high GI. What is the ideal number of hours before the game to eat? What are the best carbs (in moderate intake) for peak performance?
I've read that caffeine should be avoided but does that only apply to endurance events? When I get a moderate to high dose of caffeine before playing basketball, I feel like my focus and overall athleticism is better.
Posted on 10/18/16 at 10:17 am to litenin
3.5 hours before
Pasta
Caffeine is fine if it helps you i guess
Pasta
Caffeine is fine if it helps you i guess
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