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Captains Should Try to Get Out in Front of The City on Parade Restrictions

Posted on 2/23/20 at 6:43 am
Posted by STEVED00
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Posted on 2/23/20 at 6:43 am
ETA Updated thread title

Obviously the city WILL do something and if left on their own I’m sure the public will hate it. Some great ideas in this thread to mitigate people being stupid but not ruin parade experience

1. Update ordinances to allow more pull units
2. Netting on tandems to prevent cross through
3. Walkers around floats to mitigate idiots doing idiot things or kids doing kid things

Original discussion on the ordinance that limits floats.

If so then I assume tandem floats are the way to get around that? I totally agree that it appears these fatalities were totally the result of careless people but it does seem pretty clear that if each float had its own tractor pulling it then it would be much easier to prevent such a thing.
This post was edited on 2/23/20 at 8:38 am
Posted by GEAUXT
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Posted on 2/23/20 at 6:50 am to
Yes
Posted by patchesohoulihan_007
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Posted on 2/23/20 at 6:51 am to
Search is your friend.

Discussed at length last night.
Posted by BigHoss
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Posted on 2/23/20 at 6:52 am to
Who cares
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 2/23/20 at 6:59 am to
Who cares is that obviously adults are extremely careless but just seems like common sense says having a tractor driving each float would be much easier to maneuver if needed and a lot less pinch points.

If this was just the city and crews exploiting a loophole then the ordinance really should be updated.
Posted by Bullfrog
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Posted on 2/23/20 at 7:00 am to
You are really really dumb.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 2/23/20 at 7:04 am to
Dumb to change the rule to allow more tractors to pull the same amount of floats that would be much easier to maneuver if need be.

Yeah I dumb. The parade experience would not change at all.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 2/23/20 at 7:07 am to
Yeah, the driver of the float will really be able to maneuver that thing in the 1-2 second interval from when drunk parade goer runs up to the float and falls on his face under the wheels
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 2/23/20 at 7:12 am to
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by Proximo
Yeah, the driver of the float will really be able to maneuver that thing in the 1-2 second interval from when drunk parade goer runs up to the float and falls on his face under the wheels


Dude if you don’t think it’s easier to avoid people pulling 1 then 2 or 3 then I don’t know what o tell you. Having more tractors doesn’t affect the experience at all. Also having walkers like to bands do to keep people back would help tremendously as well.

These seem like easy fixes to help with safety since you obviously can’t stop people from being idiots. The Captains of the major parades really should come together with some fixes before the city jumps to some bad fix like fencing in the whole route.

This post was edited on 2/23/20 at 7:22 am
Posted by BestBanker
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Posted on 2/23/20 at 7:20 am to
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This post was edited on 3/25/20 at 4:48 am
Posted by bayoudude
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Posted on 2/23/20 at 7:26 am to
Walking escorts for each float would be the best option imo. Or some type of metal curb feeler type devices to deter people from getting close enough to get hurt. But in the end the average person is pretty dumb and you mix in alcohol.
Posted by FearTheFish
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/23/20 at 7:26 am to
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Having more tractors doesn’t affect the experience at all. Also having walkers like to bands do to keep people back would help tremendously as well.


This is one of the most level headed suggestions I’ve seen here.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 2/23/20 at 7:26 am to
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Lessening numbers of floats or tandems, or mandating one tractor-one pull won't cure stupid. Period


Obviously. But having one tractor pull a float with walkers to serve as “security” will make it easier to avoid the idiots. Look the city is going to rush to judgement on this so unless you’re ready for them to change the experience exponentially then you need to get out in front of it.

Change ordinance to allow more floats but also require walkers to protect. These seem like easy fixes that would definitely help as opposed to the city doing something like barricade the whole route.

You CANT FIX STUPID but you can at least mitigate it with some easy fixes.
This post was edited on 2/23/20 at 7:29 am
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 2/23/20 at 7:33 am to
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Dude if you don’t think it’s easier to avoid people pulling 1 then 2 or 3 then I don’t know what o tell you. Having more tractors doesn’t affect the experience at all. Also having walkers like to bands do to keep people back would help tremendously as well.


People cycle in and out pre/post bands. Already a ton and they still go right up to floats.

In part because the unique and coveted throws largely need to be handed instead of thrown.

As for ease of pulling- doesn’t seem difficulty is that much of a factor. If we can eliminate people getting in that blind spot it’s the obvious and easiest fix. Just wall if off with some mesh netting.

I wouldn’t mind floats having walkers with them either, to help keep an eye out.
This post was edited on 2/23/20 at 7:34 am
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22369 posts
Posted on 2/23/20 at 7:47 am to
It is clear krewes go with tandems to allow more riders. The city obviously had no problem with this bc they allowed it. My point is that TWO fatalities happened. Were they caused by people being silly? Probably but you CANT fix that.

My point in all of this is that the Captains need to propose a fix before the city decides to do it for obvious reasons.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 2/23/20 at 7:49 am to
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The parade experience would not change at all.





Except for all the floats designed specifically to be in tandem
Posted by kingbob
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 2/23/20 at 7:52 am to
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This is one of the most level headed suggestions I’ve seen here.


If Spanish Town didn’t have walkers, all the drunk bitches near me yesterday would have been mowed down
Posted by TheChosenOne
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 2/23/20 at 7:53 am to
Or simply mandate chains or ropes be placed between tandem floats to prohibit people getting in between the floats and getting run over.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22369 posts
Posted on 2/23/20 at 7:53 am to
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Except for all the floats designed specifically to be in tandem


I went to Iris yesterday and every single tandem could’ve been a single. Tandems used to only be in the 3 Super Krewes and they were just a few now they are in every parade and seem to be common place.

My point is there are some easy fixes. You want a tandem then have the netting and several walkers. You can’t leave this up to the city bc they will take the easiest most conservative fix which would be barricades which in the long would cause even more problems.
This post was edited on 2/23/20 at 7:55 am
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 2/23/20 at 7:54 am to
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Who cares

You do, Big Hoss. That's two threads I've seen you in about this subject pretending not to care, but I've thanked you. I thank you for caring enough to click the link, click reply, then typing a reply.

Your continued caring about this subject provides us the strength we need to continue on.
This post was edited on 2/23/20 at 7:55 am
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