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Can teachers really close the "achievement gap?"
Posted on 10/5/16 at 8:58 pm
Posted on 10/5/16 at 8:58 pm
If you have kids, you understand the achievement gap. The differences in academic scores separating black and Hispanics vs. whites and Asians. Our school district is making a huge push to close this gap. However, I ask this question - if we are unable to be with them but 1/3 of the day 1/2 of the year, how does this gap close? Should our goal not to be raise performance of all students? I find it inequitable to shove additional resources to certain groups based on demographics.
I am genuinely interested in thoughts from others. Should our goal be to close the gap or raise everyone as high as possible?
I am genuinely interested in thoughts from others. Should our goal be to close the gap or raise everyone as high as possible?
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Posted on 10/5/16 at 9:00 pm to rpg37
I don't know how, but this is somehow racist.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 9:00 pm to rpg37
Teachers hardly make a difference in a kids academic success. It's 99% on how they're parented.
This post was edited on 10/5/16 at 9:10 pm
Posted on 10/5/16 at 9:01 pm to rpg37
It's not an achievement gap. It's an opportunity gap.
White Devil.
White Devil.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 9:03 pm to Tamer of beasts
Eh... I've seen plenty of kids with shitty parents become successful. It is a mix of parenting, teachers, friends, and tons of other influences.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 9:03 pm to rpg37
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I find it inequitable to shove additional resources to certain groups based on demographics.
Think of it like this
Asian kid: 20 resources - 10 from school 10 from parents
Mexican kid: 15 resources - 10 from school 5 from parents (both work two jobs and have less money)
They are now attempting to shore up the Mexican child by giving 5 more resources through school.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 9:05 pm to rpg37
Close the gap by getting parents involved. Hard to do with families that have one parent at home
Posted on 10/5/16 at 9:06 pm to rpg37
Only if they can magically change genetics 
Posted on 10/5/16 at 9:07 pm to rpg37
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I am genuinely interested in seeing how many posters get banned
Posted on 10/5/16 at 9:08 pm to rpg37
Don't confuse the politics of education with the realities of education. Nobody is going to close the gap. Some people are more intelligent than others just like some people are more athletic. Half the population is dumber than the other half. Can't change that.
Then there's the reality of countless kids who are sent to expensive private schools where they actually get educated. Public schools can't close that gap, especially considering half or more of public school teachers aren't very smart and don't really have the support of administrators or parents. Parents want their kids to get good grades; they are not concerned about their kids being challenged.
Then there's the reality of countless kids who are sent to expensive private schools where they actually get educated. Public schools can't close that gap, especially considering half or more of public school teachers aren't very smart and don't really have the support of administrators or parents. Parents want their kids to get good grades; they are not concerned about their kids being challenged.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 9:10 pm to rpg37
Been a lot of teachers lately letting the students in their gap
Posted on 10/5/16 at 9:11 pm to rpg37
All kids in the same classroom get the same education. The difference is at home.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 9:16 pm to rpg37
We should be less concerned with the achievement gap and more concerned with giving kids the tools to be successful in life (well, as successful as you can from a classroom) no matter their achievement level.
Everything has become about "college readiness" when the reality is that we desperately need skilled laborers in our workforce as much as we need college graduates. Bring back vocational schools to help bridge the "gap". And stop judging "achievement" by a fricking test score.
Everything has become about "college readiness" when the reality is that we desperately need skilled laborers in our workforce as much as we need college graduates. Bring back vocational schools to help bridge the "gap". And stop judging "achievement" by a fricking test score.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 9:24 pm to rpg37
No but parents can
Posted on 10/5/16 at 9:28 pm to ClientNumber9
Teachers at my kids school cant even run drop off and pick up for the car riders. Its a fricking mess every damn day. Unfortunately, Unions have made most teachers lazy pieces of shite.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 9:31 pm to rpg37
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Should our goal be to close the gap or raise everyone as high as possible?
The long term goal is to get everyone as high as possible, but there are various ways to achieve that goal. If the US wants to changes things up in education while focusing on the gap, sure, go right ahead. Perhaps a change will lift the entire population as a byproduct.
Regardless, doing what we've been doing in education is creating a gap between America and other countries, so it would be insane to maintain the status quo.
This post was edited on 10/5/16 at 9:32 pm
Posted on 10/5/16 at 9:31 pm to Strannix
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Only if they can magically change genetics
Now, this actually is racist.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 9:33 pm to golfntiger32
The city of Oxford, MS just proposed a complete separate, "opt-in" school for people on the lower end of the socioeconomic scale. It caused quite the discussion.
Personally, I think that there needs to be schools that are completely separate and in order to go there you must meet minimum scores on standardized tests. Essentially, get the smart kids in class rooms where they can be challenged and flourish rather than bore them while a teacher spends all her time on the dumb ones.
Personally, I think that there needs to be schools that are completely separate and in order to go there you must meet minimum scores on standardized tests. Essentially, get the smart kids in class rooms where they can be challenged and flourish rather than bore them while a teacher spends all her time on the dumb ones.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 9:33 pm to Peazey
... But is it wrong?
Posted on 10/5/16 at 9:33 pm to rpg37
If you can somehow lower the Asian populations IQ I think you might be on to something...
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