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re: Can someone explain to me why sales can be a lucrative profession?
Posted on 7/25/18 at 8:57 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
Posted on 7/25/18 at 8:57 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
That’s why I’m in casket and headstone sales. My customers are all first time buyers and most are clueless. Good thing about my customers is that they aren’t repeat customers so I don’t have to develop any relationships to keep their business.
Posted on 7/25/18 at 8:58 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
Like Allaintgroup?
Posted on 7/25/18 at 8:58 pm to notiger1997
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Seems like something that software could very easily replace.
No not really, but we starting to incorporate more AI into what we do.
Posted on 7/25/18 at 8:58 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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For about the 10th time, I think the sales people bring value. This isn't an all or nothing special thing, I'm not sure how you all don't understand that. My point was and still is that the job description has changed tremendously and the pay structure has not, for better or worse.
I think where you got off on the wrong foot is the assumption that sales reps are order takers. In some situations, like commodity items in General Surgery, this is true. In specialized markets that isn’t the case. OML is right in the fact that as a good rep you have to be able to think through the surgery like a surgeon and tailor your message to the specific surgeon to get the results. I am that guy that when the shite hits the fan the surgeons want me there and actually know more about what needs to be done than anyone else in the room besides the surgeon.
I know that some hospitals have visited the “rep-less model” but it doesn’t work unless the hospitals are willing to pay real good money to the reps to become hospital staff. There is a shite ton of studying and practice in Cadaver labs that must be invested to keep a rep current (I have 1off at a training lab right now being taught by an up and coming surgeon). But the band-aid counters always think they aren’t necessary while the good surgeons admit they are worth their pay and then some. And btw I would take a 20% cut in pay to be staff at the trauma/academic center in my city. It would be a better work life balance but I doubt the hospital would pay to keep me current and I would be making more money, even with the cut, than most, if not all, the non-cutting Physicians in the hospital.
Posted on 7/25/18 at 8:59 pm to al_cajun
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Like Allaintgroup?
Global accounting firm. I'm based out of Dallas but work in pretty much every state
Posted on 7/25/18 at 9:00 pm to ABearsFanNMS
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I know that some hospitals have visited the “rep-less model” but it doesn’t work unless the hospitals are willing to pay real good money to the reps to become hospital staff. There is a shite ton of studying and practice in Cadaver labs that must be invested to keep a rep current (I have 1off at a training lab right now being taught by an up and coming surgeon). But the band-aid counters always think they aren’t necessary while the good surgeons admit they are worth their pay and then some. And btw I would take a 20% cut in pay to be staff at the trauma/academic center in my city. It would be a better work life balance but I doubt the hospital would pay to keep me current and I would be making more money, even with the cut, than most, if not all, the non-cutting Physicians in the hospital.
All reasonable and what I was asking
Posted on 7/25/18 at 9:06 pm to ABearsFanNMS
What’s the best background for medical sales besides being a doctor? Biology, engineering, etc?
Posted on 7/25/18 at 9:06 pm to TH03
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Although I will admit, I’m in sales and clients have already started phasing out our services
Post less and work harder? There is no way your a halfway decent salesman, you spend your entire day posting
Posted on 7/25/18 at 9:07 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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All reasonable and what I was asking
In reality if the Band-aid counters really wanted to save money they would incentivize their employees to find better ways to minimize complications and get patients up and out faster. That is where the savings in hospitals are at.
Posted on 7/25/18 at 9:07 pm to al_cajun
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What’s the best background for medical sales besides being a doctor? Biology, engineering, etc?
Biology, and either being a smoking hot chick, a major athlete, or former member of the military. I was an anomaly there basically.
This post was edited on 7/25/18 at 9:10 pm
Posted on 7/25/18 at 9:10 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
quote:if you have ever left your house at 4am Monday returned at 9pm Thursday, spent three nights in a hotel with rental car drives of hours a day you wouldn’t be discounting how hard it can be
Does not compute
Posted on 7/25/18 at 9:10 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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No offense, but sounds like something a computer could do faster and cheaper.
None taken.
Go create an algorithm or invest capital in someone who can and try to disrupt the market.
You’ll quickly see that these multinational freight forwarders understand self preservation and have many barriers in place.
I work for a smaller company not a forwarder. We provide transportation solutions for the forwarders.
This post was edited on 7/25/18 at 9:18 pm
Posted on 7/25/18 at 9:11 pm to tigerfoot
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if you have ever left your house at 4am Monday returned at 9pm Thursday, spent three nights in a hotel with rental car drives of hours a day you wouldn’t be discounting how hard it can be
Minus the driving I have
Posted on 7/25/18 at 9:11 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
Your faith in computers is misplaced
Posted on 7/25/18 at 9:12 pm to tigerfoot
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Your faith in computers is misplaced
How close to the artificial intellegsnce and machine learning processes are you?
Posted on 7/25/18 at 9:14 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
Why Top Sales People Make More Than Some CEO’s?
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It is these commissions that truly enable the total salary of a top sales person to rival or even exceed that of a CEO
Posted on 7/25/18 at 9:15 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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Does not compute
Wake up at 5:00 on Monday and don’t return home until 10:00 on Thursday. It should compute, you’re just working on the 5 work day mentality.
Posted on 7/25/18 at 9:15 pm to Man4others
Website looks legit, despite not naming one instince of that claim
Posted on 7/25/18 at 9:16 pm to OMLandshark
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you’re just working on the 5 work day mentality.
I wish
Posted on 7/25/18 at 9:22 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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y. However, in today's information age why are we still paying sales reps potentially such hight salaries
You clearly don’t get it.
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