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re: Calling OT legal experts: Medical Malpractice
Posted on 1/12/17 at 8:00 am to crimsonsaint
Posted on 1/12/17 at 8:00 am to crimsonsaint
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So some random joe blow takes one look at you and determines that you have congestive heart failure? Dudes a fricking genius.
I find it hilarious when people i know want to argue with doctors or their diagnoses.. I'm like 'bitch, you've worked at the pogey plant and on a shrimp boat your whole life, how the hell are you gonna argue with a doctor??'
This post was edited on 1/12/17 at 8:17 am
Posted on 1/12/17 at 8:00 am to Jorts R Us
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physicians that probably would have erred on this one too. Not all physicians are created equal and some are just in a rush to get to the next patient and aren't as keen.
And this doesn't meet the legal standard for malpractice, therefore no case, and the reason the lawyers you've contacted have told you that.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 8:15 am to Darth_Vader
How old are you? If you're relatively young with no prior history of heart disease then CHF may have been further down their list of possible diagnoses.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 8:18 am to pleading the fifth
I believe he said he was late 40s with the only prior heart condition when he was < 10 years old
Posted on 1/12/17 at 8:21 am to crimsonsaint
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So some random joe blow takes one look at you and determines that you have congestive heart failure? Dudes a fricking genius.
He's not a genius. He just went through the same thing I'm going through now. He had congestive heart failure and is my age. In his case he needed a pacemaker.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 8:26 am to crimsonsaint
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Pretty sure your congestive heart failure is what about killed you. Did the three doctors cause that?
No. What they did was misdiagnose it and treat me for conditions I didn't have. What they did was waste three months while my condition worsened day by day. Congestive heart failure is s very treatable condition that you can live with and have s long and normal life... as long as you take care of it. I was not taking care of it because my docotors failed to inform me I had it. That's how they almost killed me.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 8:49 am to Darth_Vader
Just another point that may help. Besides having the same surgery as you I also work in a busy urgent care. We can tell between pneumonia and heart failure fairly easily and see both here. The people think they have a cough but the docs can spot it easily and send them to the ER. Seems like a real shitty doctor.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 8:55 am to Darth_Vader
Sorry you went through this. If you live in Louisiana, you may not have a shot at Malpractice unfortunately. Before you can file a Malpractice suit, your case has to be reviewed by a group of doctors who will decide whether or not to allow it. My personal experience from 13 years ago.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 8:57 am to Isabelle81
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orry you went through this. If you live in Louisiana, you may not have a shot at Malpractice unfortunately. Before you can file a Malpractice suit, your case has to be reviewed by a group of doctors who will decide whether or not to allow it.
incorrect, they dont "allow" it or not, they just have an opinion on if med mal did or didnt occur. the case still proceeds forward regardless of the panels ruling
Posted on 1/12/17 at 9:00 am to pleading the fifth
I can see that on the first couple visits but after an x ray showing an enlarged heart, coupled with the already noted symptoms...how did they not at least consider it?
As soon as I mentioned the x ray, my wife said "gotta order the echo."
As soon as I mentioned the x ray, my wife said "gotta order the echo."
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 9:23 am to Darth_Vader
Yes to should sue and they will likely settle out of court.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 9:57 am to Darth_Vader
Damn, man, glad to hear you're on the road to recovery.
There's little doubt your condition could/should have been handled better. But based on the details you've provided, I wouldn't get my hopes up for a significant judgement:
Your diagnosis may have been delayed by a few months, the real underlying issues the the mitral valve issue and the coronary artery disease with significant stenosis have been ongoing for years. The first you were born with (obviously) and the second developed overtime due to a combination of genetics and lifestyle choices.
I can't say definitively without your labs, xrays, etc but if your valve failure/CAD was severe enough to cause cardiomegaly and CHF, it's very likely that you DO have obstructive pulmonary disease.
It's also possible that you were teetering along the brink of florid CHF, and you caught a viral upper respiratory infection that pushed you over the edge.
A couple of things likely muddied the water, leading to a delayed diagnosis.
-you're age is not typical for CHF
-you weren't able to see the same family practioner for follow up. Going back to the same person might have allowed for revision of the working diagnosis.
-steroids blamed for the swelling/weight gain rather than CHF
-possibly early secondary obstructive pulmonary disease causing changes on xray that were misinterpreted.
There's little doubt your condition could/should have been handled better. But based on the details you've provided, I wouldn't get my hopes up for a significant judgement:
Your diagnosis may have been delayed by a few months, the real underlying issues the the mitral valve issue and the coronary artery disease with significant stenosis have been ongoing for years. The first you were born with (obviously) and the second developed overtime due to a combination of genetics and lifestyle choices.
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No. What they did was misdiagnose it and treat me for conditions I didn't have.
I can't say definitively without your labs, xrays, etc but if your valve failure/CAD was severe enough to cause cardiomegaly and CHF, it's very likely that you DO have obstructive pulmonary disease.
It's also possible that you were teetering along the brink of florid CHF, and you caught a viral upper respiratory infection that pushed you over the edge.
A couple of things likely muddied the water, leading to a delayed diagnosis.
-you're age is not typical for CHF
-you weren't able to see the same family practioner for follow up. Going back to the same person might have allowed for revision of the working diagnosis.
-steroids blamed for the swelling/weight gain rather than CHF
-possibly early secondary obstructive pulmonary disease causing changes on xray that were misinterpreted.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 10:04 am to CrimsonTideMD
Not to say incompetent docs aren't out there; I've seen em. And even good ones make mistakes from time to time.
I think the likelyhood of a "red herring" throwing 3 practioners off course is greater than the that of running into 3 consecutive grossly incompetent physicians.
Either way, it's worth looking into on your end if for nothing else than peace of mind.
I think the likelyhood of a "red herring" throwing 3 practioners off course is greater than the that of running into 3 consecutive grossly incompetent physicians.
Either way, it's worth looking into on your end if for nothing else than peace of mind.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 10:07 am to CrimsonTideMD
Nice post.
Too bad Darth has to cull through 10 pages of personal attacks, misinformation and outright bullshite to find the 8 or 10 legitimately helpful and informative posts.
Too bad Darth has to cull through 10 pages of personal attacks, misinformation and outright bullshite to find the 8 or 10 legitimately helpful and informative posts.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 11:06 am to Jorts R Us
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I can see that on the first couple visits but after an x ray showing an enlarged heart, coupled with the already noted symptoms...how did they not at least consider it?
As soon as I mentioned the x ray, my wife said "gotta order the echo."
That was the night my wife begged the ER doctor to admit me to the hospital and do tests and try to figure out what was really going on because to her it had become obvious is was not asthma or pneumonia. The clueless ER doctor replied that she didn't have any medical reason to admit me to the hospital.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 12:12 pm to Darth_Vader
Did the ER doc have you hooked up to a telemetry monitor when you had your HR of 140 which was irregular? Assuming it was new onset afib, I can't imagine why they wouldn't admit you.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 12:28 pm to Darth_Vader
short answer... NO. No malpractice took place. not finding a root cause is not malpractice.
answer this: what do you call a guy who cheated his way through med school ?
answer this: what do you call a guy who cheated his way through med school ?
Posted on 1/12/17 at 12:33 pm to Mr. Hangover
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Yea let's sue a doctor because he may or may not have made a mistake
I can't stand people like you
So you'd rather doctors just ignore obvious signs of a serious condition and send people home to die? Great idea.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 12:35 pm to Ric Flair
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Did the ER doc have you hooked up to a telemetry monitor when you had your HR of 140 which was irregular? Assuming it was new onset afib, I can't imagine why they wouldn't admit you.
I don't know if you call it a "telemetry" monitor or not. All I can tell you is this device monitored my heart beat, blood pressure, and blood oxygen level. My heart rate would fluctuate from around 120 on the low end and up in the 140s on the high end. She also had my x-ray to go by which showed I had an enlarged heart. She could also see I had massive swelling, especially around my calves and ankles. And she also knew I was having difficulty breathing.
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