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re: California’s $20 fast food minimum wage balloons menu prices
Posted on 4/3/24 at 4:04 pm to Korkstand
Posted on 4/3/24 at 4:04 pm to Korkstand
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Why shouldn't that cost, the cost of the employee surviving to work another day, be borne by the employer?
Because the work they do is not worth that much if the government didn’t arbitrarily set it as such.
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Posted on 4/3/24 at 4:05 pm to holmesbr
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The places that could carry an extra person or 2 are going to cut them. Or they can help install the kiosk and teach it to do their job.
This what I’m interested in seeing. The technology is already there to significantly reduce headcount. Fast food restaurants have mostly avoided it due to expense, bad PR, etc.
But now there is no reason not to.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 4:06 pm to Korkstand
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If you cannot pay an employee enough to sustain a life
Again, this is completely arbitrary and subjective.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 4:07 pm to Korkstand
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Like they have since the 70s.
You think it's different today?
Not sure. I, nor 99% of adults dont or havent worked min waged jobs in decades.
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Age: Minimum wage workers tend to be young. Although workers under age 25 represent nearly one-fifth of hourly paid workers, they make up 44 percent of those paid the federal minimum wage or less. Among employed teenagers (ages 16 to 19) paid by the hour, 4 percent earned the minimum wage or less, compared with 1 percent of workers age 25 and older.
Gender: Among workers paid hourly rates in 2021, about 2 percent of women and 1 percent of men had wages at or below the prevailing federal minimum.
These are jobs for kids and ex cons.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 4:07 pm to Korkstand
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I get it, and I welcome it. As long as the welfare system is restructured to promote self-improvement rather than work against it as it mostly does presently.
This is part of that fantasy world you live that was mentioned earlier.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 4:08 pm to Korkstand
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As long as the welfare system is restructured to promote self-improvement
Good luck w that
Posted on 4/3/24 at 4:09 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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Pizza Hut is firing 1,200 delivery drivers in California after the state upped its minimum wage from $16 to $20 an hour. Drivers working at branches run by PacPizza and Southern California Pizza Co will be made redundant in February.
Looks like 1200 people think Progressives are retards.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 4:09 pm to More beer please
quote:Any time.
Thanks for the advice bud
Just to reiterate: if you are passing on a new or increased expense 1:1 in your prices, then you are leaving money on the table at one or the other (or both) price levels.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 4:09 pm to Deep Purple Haze
What do you all think will happen with California? Will it end up like Greece?
Ten years from now could we seeing a $30 minimum wage and a $50 meal from BK?
Ten years from now could we seeing a $30 minimum wage and a $50 meal from BK?
Posted on 4/3/24 at 4:11 pm to AlterDWI
quote:Having living employees would seem to be a pretty critical requirement in the survival of the business.
Wtf are you talking about? How in the world is it the responsibility of a restaurant owner to make sure his employees "survive"?
quote:Yeah you pay attention: your employees need to eat and I don't think taxpayers should be subsidizing that.
Pay attention: a business owner's job is to run a business - not be a social worker.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 4:11 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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Because the work they do is not worth that much if the government didn’t arbitrarily set it as such.
Exactly.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 4:12 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Agreed. But it's tough to run a business with no living employees.
Its not a business owners job to be a social worker.
quote:Agreed.
The cost of living is on your government.
quote:Agreed.
Your government is causing this crisis with monetary policy
quote:No I'm not.
and youre pissed at some business owner.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 4:14 pm to Korkstand
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Agreed. But it's tough to run a business with no living employees.
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No one is dying over too few wages. How do you think they'll feel unemployed? Which is what will happen?
Youre blaming industry for government fricking up the economy with debt
Posted on 4/3/24 at 4:15 pm to Korkstand
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you are passing on a new or increased expense 1:1 in your prices, then you are leaving money on the table at one or the other (or both) price levels.
You mind elaborating? Let’s keep it simple. I own a mom and pop burger joint (hypothetical).
Posted on 4/3/24 at 4:16 pm to Korkstand
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Yeah you pay attention: your employees need to eat
Its not their fault everything is unaffordable.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 4:18 pm to Korkstand
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Agreed. But it's tough to run a business with no living employees.
Why is the left always run by emotion and fear mongering?
Posted on 4/3/24 at 4:19 pm to imjustafatkid
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Franchise owners are not McDonald's corporate, you absolute idiot.
You are correct.
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McDonald's follows a heavily franchised business model and has substantially decreased its owned and operated restaurants over the years. Indeed, in 2023 McDonald's had 2,142 owned restaurants, vs. 2,106 restaurants in 2022 vs. 2,736 in 2021 and 2,677 in 2020.
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In the US, out of the 13,438 McDonald's restaurants, 95% of the restaurants are franchised. In 2021, McDonald's generated total revenue of $23.22 billion, of which approximately $8.71 billion was generated from the restaurants located in the US.
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There are more than 40,275 McDonald's restaurants at different locations in the world. Most McDonald's restaurants are located in the United States, with over 14,000 locations. Other countries with a large number of McDonald's restaurants include Japan, China, Germany, and France.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 4:20 pm to TDTOM
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Why is the left always run by emotion and fear mongering?
coming from the “burgers will cost 100 dollars and all small businesses will close” crowd.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 4:20 pm to SammyTiger
Gid dam dude do you know what a franchise is?
Posted on 4/3/24 at 4:21 pm to Oilfieldbiology
quote:Then, again, that job (or business, or industry) probably should not exist in the market. If the only reason a job is performed is because the cost of the employee's existence is subsidized by some welfare program, and if the product cannot be priced such that the market can support the employee's continued existence, then the product should fail. This seems pretty plain and simple to me.
Because the work they do is not worth that much if the government didn’t arbitrarily set it as such.
I won't get into arguing any exact cost of living shite, it's obviously extremely variable and, yes, a bit arbitrary. But generally speaking if low paying positions are only filled in a local market because those peoples' income is supplemented in other ways, then it's probably not a "living wage". I'm fine with states/counties/cities setting their own levels.
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