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re: California passes "Right to Die"/Assisted Suicide Bill - Do you support?

Posted on 9/14/15 at 8:27 am to
Posted by runningTiger
Member since Apr 2014
3029 posts
Posted on 9/14/15 at 8:27 am to
"after the above"

above what? i use reason and leave emotion out of my arguments. you on the other hand base your position on emotion rather than reason.
Posted by TheAlmightySmash
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2014
5489 posts
Posted on 9/14/15 at 8:27 am to
Only as an absolutely last option to stop pain and suffering. I could never do it, but I've also never been in that much pain.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22516 posts
Posted on 9/14/15 at 8:31 am to
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I support getting dat will money!


How does this new law work with life insurance? Void it still?
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
21618 posts
Posted on 9/14/15 at 8:31 am to
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As I do not subscribe to your belief system, I ought to be able to do what I like.


Just because you don't subscribe to his belief system doesn't mean you can do whatever you want. His religion says suicide is a sin and we have religious freedom in this country which means you can't piss all over someone's beliefs by committing suicide. It's the first amendment.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 9/14/15 at 8:31 am to
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above what?


You suggested I defrauded LSU in an attempt to somehow discredit my argument here. Not only was it a shitty thing to suggest, at it was entirely untrue and if our old pal Coolidge was still alive he'd be happy to attest to that as he helped me work with LSU a bit in that regard, but you all but posted my real name here because you did not like my point of view. You ought to be banned...what from the looks of it would not be the first time.

In short...you have absolutely no credibility to ask for any argument from me. You're a dishonest asshat.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179040 posts
Posted on 9/14/15 at 8:33 am to
quote:

Don't waste your time. It's TulaneLSU.



He seems dumber than TulaneLSU. Not as articulate but yea he sucks.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 9/14/15 at 8:34 am to
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Just because you don't subscribe to his belief system doesn't mean you can do whatever you want. His religion says suicide is a sin and we have religious freedom in this country which means you can't piss all over someone's beliefs by committing suicide. It's the first amendment.




Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 9/14/15 at 8:38 am to
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No...that is inaccurate. The issue I ran into with LSU was pretty simple. I was producing t-shirt designs with GEAUX TIGERS on them for Cafe Press. I was also using my Tiger Roar handle of Geaux Tiger as the "brand" so to speak so that members would associate the designs with the stuff I was doing on the board. As LSU did not have that trademarked at the time (I researched) I felt confident that it would not be an issue.



And now that I'm thinking about this again for the first time in a decade, I need to clarify this further.

The issue wasn't even that I was using Geaux Tigers on the designs, it's that I was using GeauxTiger in advertising the designs. And when I say "advertising" I mean using it on fliers and leaflets, etc. I'd have to see if I could find one somewhere, but I think I held the domain geauxtigergraphics.com or something.

That's it...period.

For those that have no fricking clue what this clown is talking about, forgive me for having to address any of this here.
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
67766 posts
Posted on 9/14/15 at 8:42 am to
Yes
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91271 posts
Posted on 9/14/15 at 8:48 am to
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How does this new law work with life insurance? Void it still?


I'm not 100% sure, but most policies offer a terminal illness rider, so if the law is restricted to terminal illness patients, it shouldn't matter. In most cases, a terminal illness rider pays out the death benefit to the beneficiary in the event that the covered life is diagnosed with a terminal illness and has less than 12-months to live.
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
17823 posts
Posted on 9/14/15 at 8:48 am to
Yes, absolutely.
Posted by Mr. Wayne
Member since Feb 2008
10082 posts
Posted on 9/14/15 at 8:56 am to
I think with heavy restrictions such as approval of immediate family, death does cause financial hardship on family, and most of all that not a cent of taxpayer money nor insurance goes into it. Personal choice should come from personal funds and adding it to a list of things covered by insurance would just add to the premium pool.
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
21618 posts
Posted on 9/14/15 at 8:56 am to
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So you think your religion should dictate the law?


So you think that not believing should give you a pass to break the law? A sort of atheist get-out-of-jail-free card? That's not how religious freedom works.
quote:

theocracy

Fancy word there.
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You don't have to participate in this due to you religion, that's perfectly fine. You should not be able to make this decision for others.


And others can make all the decisions they want as long as it doesn't inhibit my religious freedom. Part of that freedom is that suicide is a sin, so it won't fly in a nation with religious freedom.

Read the constitution before posting stuff like this so you don't sound foolish in the future.

Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112600 posts
Posted on 9/14/15 at 9:03 am to
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people should never have the legal right to end the life of a human being

their own or another
Why not?
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49475 posts
Posted on 9/14/15 at 9:04 am to
What if this is the reason the ZA starts?

When we make a law disregarding life, the dead begin coming back.

FTWD is a disguised message being sent out by the conscience of the world to the masses.
Posted by BulldogXero
Member since Oct 2011
10185 posts
Posted on 9/14/15 at 9:07 am to
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find me one person that has ever been convicted of committing suicide.


Well that would be hard since they're all dead
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112600 posts
Posted on 9/14/15 at 9:07 am to
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To deny someone the ability to choose makes you an a-hole.
It is insanely arrogant for someone to think it's ok to tell someone else what to do with their body and their life.
Posted by SwaggerCopter
H TINE HOL IT DINE
Member since Dec 2012
27402 posts
Posted on 9/14/15 at 9:10 am to
Religion aside, I think it's scary to be putting healthcare in the government's hands while passing these kinds of laws. At some point, can the government decide that your life is not worth keeping?

"Sorry, sir. Under you government health plan, we have to kill you now."
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112600 posts
Posted on 9/14/15 at 9:12 am to
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And others can make all the decisions they want as long as it doesn't inhibit my religious freedom. Part of that freedom is that suicide is a sin, so it won't fly in a nation with religious freedom.

Read the constitution before posting stuff like this so you don't sound foolish in the future.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 9/14/15 at 9:15 am to
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At some point, can the government decide that your life is not worth keeping?


No, no they can't. This law doesn't even come close to suggesting that something like what you are saying would happen.
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