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California passes "Right to Die"/Assisted Suicide Bill - Do you support?
Posted on 9/14/15 at 7:39 am
Posted on 9/14/15 at 7:39 am
I'd like to keep this on the OT instead of the PoliBoard if possible.
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Keep in mind, this option is heavily restricted.
I have yet to hear a rational argument against Right to Die. Oregon is probably the most well known state that has this law, but Washington and a couple others have it as well. It is a good option for someone to have.
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The "death with dignity" movement marked a victory in California Friday when the state Senate passed a bill allowing terminally ill patients to end their own lives with the help of a physician.
The End of Life Option Act, which passed in the state Assembly Wednesday, would allow patients to seek aid-in-dying options so long as they are given six months or less to live by two doctors, submit a written request and two oral requests at least 15 days apart and possess the mental capacity to make their own health care decisions.
Gov. Jerry Brown (D), who attended a Jesuit seminary prior to his political career, has yet to indicate whether he will sign the bill into law.
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Keep in mind, this option is heavily restricted.
I have yet to hear a rational argument against Right to Die. Oregon is probably the most well known state that has this law, but Washington and a couple others have it as well. It is a good option for someone to have.
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Posted on 9/14/15 at 7:40 am to GetCocky11
anything we can do to make it easier for people experiencing horrible pain and suffering I am for it
Posted on 9/14/15 at 7:40 am to GetCocky11
I support it. People should be able to choose. Especially if sick.
Youd maybe have less extravagant suicides that effect the public.
Youd maybe have less extravagant suicides that effect the public.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 7:41 am to GetCocky11
Their body. It should be their choice.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 7:41 am to GetCocky11
I support getting dat will money!
Holla back, granny! Well...actually...don't
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Holla back, granny! Well...actually...don't
.Posted on 9/14/15 at 7:41 am to SEClint
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People should be able to choose
Agreed. I get frustrated at the religious arguments against it.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 7:42 am to GetCocky11
As long as it is the person's choice, I don't have an issue with it. I've seen what advanced cancer does to a person, and while everyone clings to the statistical outliers, it's brutal.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 7:42 am to GetCocky11
I haven't put to much thought into it, but I can see it's benifits. I'm sure there are some ways it could be abused as well. To sum up I have no opinion yet, need to research it more.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 7:46 am to Pilot Tiger
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anything we can do to make it easier for people experiencing horrible pain and suffering I am for it
This.
If you've ever been in the position to have a family member experiencing horrible pain with absolutely no hope of recovery and they have a desire to call it a day and they physically can't, you have no question this ought to be obvious. Very few things piss me off more than having an able bodied do-gooder tell someone who is suffering they need to endure it because of some belief system they have that tells them they need to interfere.
If I had a superpower, the ability to reverse the fortunes of those assholes with those who they tell how to live would be what I'd want first.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 7:46 am to GetCocky11
It should be allowed but require checks to ensure sound minds of people wanting to do it. Manipulative family try to take advantage of the elderly for monetary gain all the time and this would be no different.
But, death used to be an honorable thing in certain situations. This needs to be allowed.
But, death used to be an honorable thing in certain situations. This needs to be allowed.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 7:46 am to GetCocky11
do we need to make suicide legal?
find me one person that has ever been convicted of committing suicide.
find me one person that has ever been convicted of committing suicide.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 7:46 am to TrueTiger
quote:suicide is illegal in many jurisdictions
do we need to make suicide legal?
Posted on 9/14/15 at 7:46 am to GetCocky11
I'm all for less Californians.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 7:47 am to TrueTiger
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find me one person that has ever been convicted of committing suicide.
Pretty much all the ones that fail at it.
And all the ones in hell with Lucifer for eternity.
That's a whole lotta people.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 7:48 am to Red Drum
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Manipulative family try to take advantage of the elderly for monetary gain all the time and this would be no different.
And the law would make it a felony to coerce people into taking this option. I know, I know...the law doesn't always work, but the check is there legally.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 7:49 am to Pectus
people should never have the legal right to end the life of a human being
their own or another
their own or another
Posted on 9/14/15 at 7:49 am to ManBearTiger
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I feel like I'm taking crazy pills when people say things like this with actal conviction.
on what basis do you support the notion that any life, yours included, is worth protecting under law?
Posted on 9/14/15 at 7:50 am to TrueTiger
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do we need to make suicide legal?
Some people are physically incapable of committing suicide. Tough shite for them because they are actually worse off...?
Posted on 9/14/15 at 7:50 am to GetCocky11
It's very easy to "kill yourself" and stay with in the rules of morality and causation . I like the idea.
If you're in pain, keep upping the pain meds until a lethal dose is reached. Then, in the end, you did not commit suicide . You were simply trying to control the pain and ended up passing away.
Morphine -> Opium -> Cocane -> Heroine . By the time you get to Heroine to control pain, you'd be a gonner anyway.
If you're in pain, keep upping the pain meds until a lethal dose is reached. Then, in the end, you did not commit suicide . You were simply trying to control the pain and ended up passing away.
Morphine -> Opium -> Cocane -> Heroine . By the time you get to Heroine to control pain, you'd be a gonner anyway.
This post was edited on 9/14/15 at 7:54 am
Posted on 9/14/15 at 7:50 am to GetCocky11
It's their life, not ours. I would want that option if I was in their situation. Although I don't know if I would want to or not.
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