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re: Buying land in Europe?

Posted on 2/15/26 at 10:10 pm to
Posted by stelly1025
Lafayette
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 2/15/26 at 10:10 pm to
Wife and I own several properties in Germany ,but my wife is German and other than our home these are rentals. Everything we have we own outright. We have 29 rentals right now and when we are done with renovations it will be 36 in total. It varies from country to country ,but ownership here has headaches ,but in our case is profitable ,because we own them outright. Renovations and maintenance are not cheap. The house my wife grew up in was built in 1558 and we have to repair the roof. The city has it as a "denkmalschultz" which is historical protection and we have to use "bieberschwanz dachziegel" which translates to beaver tail roof tiles which are with the time period and they are fricking expensive. The entire job will run us about 300K along with stabalizing the beams. Unless you are planning to move and live there or you are rich as frick, I wouldn't recommend buying property in Europe.
Posted by nola tiger lsu
Member since Nov 2007
7363 posts
Posted on 2/15/26 at 10:35 pm to
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I own a house in Italy. I would never buy anything in the UK. Theyre going down the shitter


Except they're not
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
40859 posts
Posted on 2/15/26 at 11:47 pm to
quote:

You out of the O&G gas game or found the last remaining job in Europe?


There’s still O&G projects happening around Europe, mostly in Austria, Romania, UK/NS and Caspian. Some still in Germany too which opened the door for me here but once I arrived I put myself on a rapid New Energy learning curve. Of all the projects in Europe I’m involved with it’s around a 50% split right now between O&G and Geothermal/Lithium/CCUS. The New Energy stuff is pretty interesting, especially the closed loop Eavor projects. Our version of ADIPEC happens next week in the South of Germany, Geotherm2026. You should check it out if you have the opportunity.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105265 posts
Posted on 2/15/26 at 11:51 pm to
There are abandoned villages in Italy you can buy for like a dollar.
Posted by rltiger
Metairie
Member since Oct 2004
2429 posts
Posted on 2/16/26 at 9:22 am to
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uh have you been paying attention to the UK over the last year? Or France, Spain, and Germany for that matter? It’s worse than anything here.


Did you understand the OP’s question about moving to the UK? Their policies are a lot more stringent.
If you are referring to the 4 million muslims in the UK, over 50% were born there and the majority from Asia. Those families came in under different immigration policies pertaining to former colonies. They number @ 6%.

UK is over 80% white European, and that is the lowest percentage in western europe. Our issues are 10 fold to their immigration issues. We are desensitized to the cultural issues and unassimilated ethnic communities that go far beyond simple immigration. Europe is in shock to what is going on, we have been through it already and have accepted and adapted our behavior based on our experiences.



Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
48820 posts
Posted on 2/16/26 at 9:28 am to
quote:

SuperSaint
quote:

we periodically look at real estate in North/East Sicily
your fortunes have certainly improved.

Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
20835 posts
Posted on 2/16/26 at 10:23 am to
Thanks I will.
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
31586 posts
Posted on 2/16/26 at 10:48 am to
Id be worried about it being taken by a socialist regime. That said, we are considering buying in Italy
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
31586 posts
Posted on 2/16/26 at 10:50 am to
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It's surprisingly easy to get a mortgage in Italy


Really? I had read otherwise. Can you give some details (shkrt version)?
Posted by Defenseiskey
Houston, TX
Member since Nov 2010
2143 posts
Posted on 2/16/26 at 11:44 am to
Im looking into retiring abroad but I want to keep my US citizenship. My wife is a government employee and my kids will likely stay in Texas. Will probably downsize here in the states after my kids leave and use the equity to buy a condo or rent an apartment overseas while we live abroad for six months (more than likely during the summers). Im looking into coastal destinations in Latin America, Asia, and southern Europe.

Latin America or Spain are the top choices right now because me and my wife are both fluent in Spanish.

Europe in general is very regulated when it comes to building and visas.

Japan is a sleeper pick. There's lots of small houses and condos in great locations you can get for under a $100k but a visa that allows to stay for more than 30 days is very hard to obtain.
This post was edited on 2/16/26 at 12:09 pm
Posted by Defenseiskey
Houston, TX
Member since Nov 2010
2143 posts
Posted on 2/16/26 at 11:49 am to
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There are abandoned villages in Italy you can buy for like a dollar.


A lot of those houses have stipulations and need thousands of dollars in renovations. It's better to just outright buy something at $50k to $100k as it will already be livable.
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
45922 posts
Posted on 2/16/26 at 11:54 am to
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Really? I had read otherwise. Can you give some details (shkrt version)?


We went through a large bank in Rome. Took a few months. Very painless.

20 year mortgage. I think it was like 5 or 6%.
This post was edited on 2/16/26 at 11:54 am
Posted by Defenseiskey
Houston, TX
Member since Nov 2010
2143 posts
Posted on 2/16/26 at 11:57 am to
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mean. People glorify living abroad. But the reality seems naieve.
Honestly.


It can definitely be a positive if you do your research yourself. The horror stories I've read were all 100% avoidable. I think a lot of people just go by what they read on the internet and are overwhelmed when things go differently.
Posted by riverparish
Member since Dec 2007
1602 posts
Posted on 2/16/26 at 12:14 pm to
Literally same thing can be said about america. You never own the land. You just pay the government a lease in the form of property taxes. Quit paying the taxes and they'll take it and give it to someone who will. Also, you need all kinds of permission from the government to do what you want on land you "own".
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
28489 posts
Posted on 2/16/26 at 12:28 pm to
Just got back from Ispica. Spent time hiking all over Sicily. The drivers in the city make New Yorkers seem like a turtle race. I went through a triple roundabout and once counted about 16 fricking signs in 100 yards. My adreline stayed pumped more off the autostrradha than on
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
45922 posts
Posted on 2/16/26 at 5:41 pm to
I love how crazy a lot of euro taxi drivers drive. The ones in south America are even crazier, though
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74227 posts
Posted on 2/16/26 at 5:58 pm to
If you're retired it's easier. Also if you have a high monthly income without working there you can get residency.
I've liked into it.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74227 posts
Posted on 2/16/26 at 5:59 pm to
Colombia was the scariest place to drive. I had to rely on Taxis. They have no stop signs or traffic lights. You just shoot into the corner and make a spot. I've never seen anything like it. Driving in Mexico and Europe is a breeze compared to that. Only place is SA I've been.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37202 posts
Posted on 2/16/26 at 6:22 pm to
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I live in Central Europe.

Name Czechs out
Posted by southpawcock
Member since Oct 2015
17721 posts
Posted on 2/16/26 at 6:43 pm to
Went to Cali, Colombia last may and the free for all/all the motos & potholes was insane.
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