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re: Buckhead pushing to split off from the declining city of Atlanta
Posted on 6/16/21 at 12:04 pm to Pettifogger
Posted on 6/16/21 at 12:04 pm to Pettifogger
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Atlanta is very likely the least segregated big city in America, and potentially the world if having a considerable amount of minorities (based on the locale) is a prerequisite.
Which makes Lance-Bottoms' tenure even more of a disaster.
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Posted on 6/16/21 at 12:05 pm to Pettifogger
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Atlanta is very likely the least segregated big city in America
I'd probably say NYC, but the dynamics of the 2 cities are so different it's probably not an easy comparison.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 12:05 pm to Wally Sparks
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Yet you have people rooting for the city's collapse without fixing the underlying problems.
Most of those people already left or know that any real positive change is a pipe dream. The sad reality is that the last one to leave a declining neighborhood gets penalized financially in a huge way. That's a penalization that most middle class people (the majority of the OT demographic) can't afford. Real estate and their retirement savings are the only real ways they can build wealth, so they are are extremely risk averse when it comes to anything that threatens that.
A little bit of property crime will get their attention but not a real response. Riots, especially high profile ones without any real law enforcement, will have them leaving town with quickness.
And what's happened in Atlanta recently?
Posted on 6/16/21 at 12:08 pm to goofball
So how long does this supposed decline start to show up in the housing market? My best friend lives in Atlanta(Va Highlands) and has been looking for a new house for over a year now. He's lost out on a 2 or 3 incredible offers on his house because he couldn't find a replacement home.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 12:11 pm to goofball
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Most of those people already left or know that any real positive change is a pipe dream. The sad reality is that the last one to leave a declining neighborhood gets penalized financially in a huge way. That's a penalization that most middle class people (the majority of the OT demographic) can't afford. Real estate and their retirement savings are the only real ways they can build wealth, so they are are extremely risk averse when it comes to anything that threatens that.
A little bit of property crime will get their attention but not a real response. Riots, especially high profile ones without any real law enforcement, will have them leaving town with quickness.
Except the people I'm talking about are rooting for the collapse thinking that it's happening in a vacuum and wouldn't affect surrounding jurisdictions. If the city of Atlanta went down the toilet and crime skyrocketed even more, what's to stop the POSes from going into "Buckhead City," Brookhaven, Vinings, etc. and causing problems there? None of those areas could build a reverse Berlin Wall.
This post was edited on 6/16/21 at 12:16 pm
Posted on 6/16/21 at 12:14 pm to The Spleen
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I'd probably say NYC, but the dynamics of the 2 cities are so different it's probably not an easy comparison.
Yeah, I think NYC has more natural (true) diversity (as opposed to media/government diversity which usually means the presence of black people) and in places it's fairly well integrated, albeit with lots and lots of enclaves.
For black-white integration - it's Atlanta IMO. Nowhere else in the country will you walk into the highest end establishments a city has to offer and see 10, 20, 30% black people.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 12:16 pm to Wally Sparks
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causing problems there? None of those areas could build a reverse Berlin Wall and no amount of cops could prevent it
what stops it now?
example: plenty of ghetto trash all over Houston city limits, but i don't hear a lot of stories of hoodlums hopping on a bus to terrorize the folks of Katy, The Woodlands, and Tomball.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 12:21 pm to The Spleen
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So how long does this supposed decline start to show up in the housing market? My best friend lives in Atlanta(Va Highlands) and has been looking for a new house for over a year now. He's lost out on a 2 or 3 incredible offers on his house because he couldn't find a replacement home.
Per our real estate friends in town stuff is still doing really well, just not nearly as well as stuff outside of the City. Our house (in the city) was listed on Friday afternoon and had 3 offers by noon on Saturday. Went under contract on Monday for 20% above asking. And that was before the market went from amazing to insane.
However, that's nothing compared to the nicer suburb stuff we're hearing about. Our new neighborhood had a house go under contract for 100k over list within 48 hours. In lower priced areas you hear about houses getting 25 or 30 offers within the first day or two. It's absolutely nuts. I know some folks up in Milton who claim that people having to relocate to the Atlanta area for work are basically putting houses under contract for way over list and then flying in to walk them.
Where is your friend looking to move?
Posted on 6/16/21 at 12:24 pm to Wally Sparks
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Except the people I'm talking about are rooting for the collapse thinking that it's happening in a vacuum and wouldn't affect surrounding jurisdictions. If the city of Atlanta went down the toilet and crime skyrocketed even more, what's to stop the POSes from going into "Buckhead City," Brookhaven, Vinings, etc. and causing problems there? None of those areas could build a reverse Berlin Wall.
It's a reasonable point. But I'd argue Buckhead is the attractive nuisance. Siphoning off Buckhead and making it inhospitable might work, and having your own police force and the like could be a major factor (see places like Peachtree City or Sandy Springs where the PD reputations help a lot).
Of course, that's never going to happen. It would require Buckhead to tone down all the luxury/lounge/high end shite, or at least turn the entire area into one big Bacchanalia that has very little baller appeal.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 12:25 pm to Klark Kent
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but i don't hear a lot of stories of hoodlums hopping on a bus to terrorize the folks of Katy, The Woodlands, and Tomball.
It kind of helps that those areas are 30 miles away from Downtown Houston.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 12:27 pm to Pettifogger
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or at least turn the entire area into one big Bacchanalia that has very little baller appeal.
That's basically what they've been trying to do for the past 20 years with the former Buckhead Village area.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 12:27 pm to Pettifogger
wait, let me get this straight.
so you're telling me that there is a limited market for more expensive homes in the city with significantly less square footage, smaller yards, and despite being on a safe block or in a gated area likely have some sketchy areas nearby?
that type of logic ain't gonna fly in this debate w/ Spleen.
so you're telling me that there is a limited market for more expensive homes in the city with significantly less square footage, smaller yards, and despite being on a safe block or in a gated area likely have some sketchy areas nearby?
that type of logic ain't gonna fly in this debate w/ Spleen.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 12:29 pm to Pettifogger
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Where is your friend looking to move?
Same general area. Va Highlands, Druid Hills, Edgewood, and I think he's even looked at a few houses closer to Decatur. He's not really wanting to move because he loves his current location, and he never even listed his house when he got offers on it.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 12:31 pm to Pettifogger
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Per our real estate friends in town stuff is still doing really well, just not nearly as well as stuff outside of the City.
The trend your friends have pointed out are what I've heard about in Chicago. Affordable homes in inner ring suburbs especially are doing very well, and often from former renters in the city that are trying to buy their first home.
The US is estimated to be short about 5.5 million housing units due to weak home construction in the past decade. Those younger buyers are definitely paying out the nose for their first homes.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 12:31 pm to Klark Kent
Deep down spleen understands that a rising tide lifts all boats and he's probably well aware that every Atlanta neighborhood is seeing folks leave for the suburbs in higher numbers. The trick is that they all claim it's entirely COVID-related and refuse to entertain the idea that last Summer has been a major impact.
But, it's still a big prosperous city with people moving to it from other lefty-destroyed areas all the time. So it'll take a long while before some place like Atlanta has no growth. It should, however, show up in slowed growth (Atlanta was surging) and hyper growth in nice suburbs where COA expats are going.
But, it's still a big prosperous city with people moving to it from other lefty-destroyed areas all the time. So it'll take a long while before some place like Atlanta has no growth. It should, however, show up in slowed growth (Atlanta was surging) and hyper growth in nice suburbs where COA expats are going.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 12:33 pm to Klark Kent
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so you're telling me that there is a limited market for more expensive homes in the city with significantly less square footage, smaller yards, and despite being on a safe block or in a gated area likely have some sketchy areas nearby?
that type of logic ain't gonna fly in this debate w/ Spleen.
I've read this 3 or 4 times and still have no clue what point you're trying to make. I'm not even debating anything with Petti. He lives in Atlanta and I don't, so he's giving me more context to a situation I only have second hand knowledge of.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 12:37 pm to RummelTiger
Correct. Sandy Springs was one of the first to incorporate. It seems to have worked out well (at least vs. the alternative of staying part of ATL)...
Posted on 6/16/21 at 12:38 pm to goofball
Good luck, Atlanta won't let its tax base secede from the city.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 12:40 pm to Pettifogger
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The trick is that they all claim it's entirely COVID-related and refuse to entertain the idea that last Summer has been a major impact
It is funny watching leftists try and divert around this subject. I refuse to think they're all so stupid that they don't see this part of it, they just don't want to say it because it makes them uncomfortable and very much goes against their narrative.
This post was edited on 6/16/21 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 6/16/21 at 12:40 pm to jbgleason
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Start? When was the last time you were there?
People are regularly getting shot at Lakeside? News to me
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