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re: BRPD Chief on Body cam of officer shooting. Oops, I forgot that no footage exists.
Posted on 8/29/18 at 9:10 am to rowbear1922
Posted on 8/29/18 at 9:10 am to rowbear1922
Presuming the police are in the right, I really wish they would release footage. Maybe that would shut his fat arse up, although I am sure he will find some excuse to why the cop should be fired.
"The cops didn't have to *kill insert name*. He was only firing a warning shot into the air; he was never aiming at police."
"The cops didn't have to *kill insert name*. He was only firing a warning shot into the air; he was never aiming at police."
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Posted on 8/29/18 at 9:12 am to SouthEndzoneTiger
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I usually side with the police on this kind of shite, but in reading these articles the last few weeks
This!. We pay taxes and give them the tools to completely show they are following the law and rules when engaging. If they fail to use them, it should bring charges on the officer. There is NO excuse
Posted on 8/29/18 at 9:15 am to SouthEndzoneTiger
Isn't this the same BRPD officer that was involved in an officer shooting last year or so on Acadian?
Posted on 8/29/18 at 9:17 am to GeeOH
quote:No excuse? How fascist of you.
If they fail to use them, it should bring charges on the officer. There is NO excuse
Of course something can happen to a camera to cause it not to work properly. It's a piece of equipment just like anything else.
What's fishy here is that both cameras were off. That's a red flag.
Posted on 8/29/18 at 9:17 am to 4WHLN
Yep. Same guy. And this will have implications in that case.
Posted on 8/29/18 at 9:19 am to ell_13
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Yep. Same guy. And this will have implications in that case.
I think the chief is trying to cover his own arse. He gave this guy an award after he killed the guy on Acadian. It raises questions on whether that shooting was justified or not now.
Posted on 8/29/18 at 9:30 am to ell_13
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No excuse? How fascist of you.
Of course something can happen to a camera to cause it not to work properly. It's a piece of equipment just like anything else.
What's fishy here is that both cameras were off. That's a red flag.
frick off clown.
Unless the battery is dead on body cam, it registers all functions, including on/off button. The dash cam is hardwired in for power, so no issue there.
simple..get in the car when duty starts...check equipment...make a call into station on record as having faulty equipment.
Dash cams should AUTOMATICALLY be turned on when siren and or lights flipped on.
NO excuse to find out equipment is faulty AFTER an incident...NONE
Posted on 8/29/18 at 9:39 am to GeeOH
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frick off clown.
quote:You sure do make a lot of assumptions to prove a point. And it's obvious you don't know shite about these devices or how the process works when/if an officer has an equipment issue.
make a call into station on record as having faulty equipment.
I've said multiple times now that this situation seems wrong. But cameras do break and malfunction. Even in the middle of the job.
Posted on 8/29/18 at 9:48 am to GeeOH
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This!. We pay taxes and give them the tools to completely show they are following the law and rules when engaging. If they fail to use them, it should bring charges on the officer. There is NO excuse
Except that no form of technology is fail safe, but hey they’re cops and everything they have should work perfectly 100% of the time.
The lack of common sense on both sides of this is ridiculous.
Yeah it sucks that there’s no video of it but it’s not like police didn’t function prior to body cameras.
Posted on 8/29/18 at 10:00 am to ell_13
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I've said multiple times now that this situation seems wrong. But cameras do break and malfunction. Even in the middle of the job.
Riiiiiiiight. Both cameras that would show an event majically dont record? But the one pointing in another direction does?
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And it's obvious you don't know shite about these devices or how the process works when/if an officer has an equipment issue.
Except for the fact that a very close relative has the one of the contracts to install them in Lafayette..
Youde be wise to STFU while you're behind
Posted on 8/29/18 at 10:04 am to ell_13
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The point of a camera is to avoid the "he said; she said" issue with criminals vs police. This cop needs to stay on leave until there's an investigation into why neither of his cameras were on. If no sufficient excuse exists, then he should be let go.
100% agree. If we're going to use body cameras and dashcams, put some teeth into it. The chances that two completely separate systems that could have filmed it failed independently at the same time are small, and I want to know why they were off. It might be a horrendous piece of bad luck, but the reason there's no footage is far more likely to have nothing to do with luck.
The police union would never allow any policies that had real teeth to them, though.
This post was edited on 8/29/18 at 10:26 am
Posted on 8/29/18 at 10:07 am to GeeOH
quote:Are you illiterate???
Riiiiiiiight. Both cameras that would show an event majically dont record? But the one pointing in another direction does?
quote:Oh. We're going to play the "this is who I know game"?
Except for the fact that a very close relative has the one of the contracts to install them in Lafayette..
Youde be wise to STFU while you're behind
You don't want to go there.Posted on 8/29/18 at 10:09 am to GeeOH
you're such an angry little man.
Posted on 8/29/18 at 10:25 am to RogerThis
Hold on
So incident #1, he didn’t have any dash/body cam footage
Incident #2, he didn’t have any dash/body cam footage as well?
So incident #1, he didn’t have any dash/body cam footage
Incident #2, he didn’t have any dash/body cam footage as well?
Posted on 8/29/18 at 10:25 am to brass2mouth
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Except that no form of technology is fail safe, but hey they’re cops and everything they have should work perfectly 100% of the time.
The lack of common sense on both sides of this is ridiculous.
Common sense would also lead a reasonable person to believe that both cameras wouldn't simultaneously break.
Posted on 8/29/18 at 10:27 am to Pesticide
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You'd think that BRPD killed someone based on the outrage. No one got shot, died or was beat up. I dont know why the camera wasnt on but this isn't unique to BRPD nor is this going to be the only time it happens. But your right somehow in the last 150 yrs of policing the system worked without cameras and now they act like the world is burning down.
You don't think a service sidearm being discharged is reason enough for concern? So, we're basing our take on the cop missing....
As for the system working, it has failed many times. Frankly, police are not trusted by a significant portion of our citizens. That is bad. Functioning cameras both keep the cops accountable and provide justification for their actions. I'm not at all anti-police. I think that body and dash cams are great for good cops and terrible for bad cops.
This post was edited on 8/29/18 at 10:31 am
Posted on 8/29/18 at 10:34 am to Jester
The article doesn’t say that the cameras malfunctioned, it specifically states that they were not turned on.
Posted on 8/29/18 at 10:43 am to RogerThis
I get the issues with the body cams... but the dash cam not being on is very distrurbing.
Posted on 8/29/18 at 10:45 am to brass2mouth
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Except that no form of technology is fail safe, but hey they’re cops and everything they have should work perfectly 100% of the time.
The lack of common sense on both sides of this is ridiculous.
Yeah it sucks that there’s no video of it but it’s not like police didn’t function prior to body cameras.
Right. But when two seperate systems both "go offline" at the same time, there needs to be a reason for this...and it should be easy enough to figure out. For example, at the end of the shift, the officer made a report of faulty equipment, which was then repaired the next day.
Posted on 8/29/18 at 6:42 pm to RogerThis
I’m for limited government HOWEVER federal law needs to make it a legal (criminal infraction) requirement for all cams to be on and recording any and all encounters when an officer is carrying a firearm.
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