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re: Brother's Food Mart in Kenner refused to serve Border Patrol agents, ETA: Update Page 3
Posted on 12/10/25 at 7:42 am to NawlinsTiger9
Posted on 12/10/25 at 7:42 am to NawlinsTiger9
Lemme guess, America should have borders, but there shouldn't be any consequences for people who illegally cross them?
Oh that will be super effective
Oh that will be super effective
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Posted on 12/10/25 at 7:49 am to Turnblad85
If you don't support breathalyzers ignitions then you don't think drunk driving is a crime
If you don't support taking your shoes off at the airport then you don't think terrorism is a problem
If you don't let police search your car when you're pulled over then you don't think drug smuggling is an issue
Etc
If you don't support taking your shoes off at the airport then you don't think terrorism is a problem
If you don't let police search your car when you're pulled over then you don't think drug smuggling is an issue
Etc
Posted on 12/10/25 at 7:54 am to Ingeniero
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Ingeniero
Wtf are you babbling about?
Posted on 12/10/25 at 7:56 am to Turnblad85
Just carrying out your stance to its logical endpoint 
Posted on 12/10/25 at 7:58 am to lionward2014
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I don't know how Orleans and Jefferson fund their schools, but most places fund it based on property taxes.
You think most illegals immigrants own homes?
Posted on 12/10/25 at 8:36 am to dallastigers
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Of course he will say that.
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nyone near the rioters/protesters is either playing a part in it or just incredibly ignorant to drive or stroll up in the middle of that crap. If he really was innocent it’s understandable why he in a car along side protesters and not following instructions fully got arrested.
Did you even bother to watch any interview with him? He was hired to work security at the farm. he was trying to go to work for his first day there.
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If he really was innocent it’s understandable why he in a car along side protesters and not following instructions fully got arrested.
Understandable that he got peppered sprayed, removed from his car and held for 3 days without ever being charged?...for showing up to work?. ...shite going to happen during these raids. I can understand it. What I dont understand, is DHS making ups excuses for ICE's frick ups and covering up their shite behavior. You make a mistake own up to it and pay the price.
This post was edited on 12/10/25 at 9:06 am
Posted on 12/10/25 at 8:43 am to SUB
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You think most illegals immigrants own homes?
I didn't say most own homes, but they all have to live somewhere right? Either they pay rent or they pay a mortgage, either way property taxes are being paid.
Best estimate I saw showed about 28% of people here illegally own homes FWIW. Doesn't indicate of that included trailers, which if it does that number would be higher I think.
Posted on 12/10/25 at 8:47 am to ThuperThumpin
Posted on 12/10/25 at 8:47 am to BHM
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I have no problem with Juan staying and working. Let's see his federal income tax filings for the last five years. If he is contributing like every other working American then we can consider him staying.
Would be a reasonable approach if you added in a few other criteria as well. There was something similar in 2001 that required you petition filed on your behalf by a family member or employer, and had to pay a $1000 fine (inflation that would be higher now).
Reasonable approaches don't get far these days. If Congress would have done their job at any point in the last 30 years they could have prevented this whole mess.
Posted on 12/10/25 at 8:49 am to lionward2014
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Either they pay rent or they pay a mortgage, either way property taxes are being paid.
How did landlords ever pay property taxes before illegals came?
Were those properties exempt from taxes before they were rented to illegals?
Do you think the landlords will stop paying property taxes now?
What point do you think you are making?
Posted on 12/10/25 at 8:50 am to lionward2014
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Either they pay rent or they pay a mortgage, either way property taxes are being paid.
I've never found the argument that illegals pay taxes to be convincing, to be honest. It's semantics at best. Yeah they pay sales tax and sometimes property tax, and maybe if they're really gullible they're having taxes withheld while they work illegally. It's just a tangential argument that really doesn't matter when it comes to discussing their legal status.
Posted on 12/10/25 at 8:54 am to stout
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How did landlords ever pay property taxes before illegals came?
Were those properties exempt from taxes before they were rented to illegals?
Do you think the landlords will stop paying property taxes now?
What point do you think you are making?
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The argument was they take resources from the school system without contributing. I stated that they pay taxes into the system like everyone else. That's it, that's the only point I was making.
Posted on 12/10/25 at 8:58 am to Ingeniero
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It's just a tangential argument that really doesn't matter when it comes to discussing their legal status.
It's only relevant when discussing if they are or aren't a net drain on the country.
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if they're really gullible they're having taxes withheld while they work illegally
FWIW having evidence of income tax return filings go a long way when applying for anything with a discretionary or "good moral character" factor. They would be smart to get an ITIN and voluntarily pay income taxes if they ever plan on applying for anything.
Posted on 12/10/25 at 8:59 am to lionward2014
quote:The Bakery in Colorado that was targeted for not wanting to decorate a gay wedding cake says hello. Have you forgotten?
Also, since when do we support forcing private businesses to serve everyone?
This post was edited on 12/10/25 at 9:00 am
Posted on 12/10/25 at 9:02 am to lionward2014
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they pay taxes into the system like everyone else.
FYI, the percentage of people coming here legally who are a net positive is very low. What makes you think illegals are a net positive in any way?
They only pay sales tax. They aren't the ones actually paying the property tax. They send money back 'home', taking billions out of the economy here.
It has been proven over and over again that overall, they take more than they contribute nationally and locally.
Facts matter, not your conjecture.
Posted on 12/10/25 at 9:03 am to stout
Posted on 12/10/25 at 9:03 am to Ingeniero
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It's just a tangential argument that really doesn't matter when it comes to discussing their legal status.
It does matter because they are costing American taxpayers somewhere between 150 billion to 450 billion per year. So the extreme lengths we have to go through to get them out of here aren't because we just hate them, it's because they need to gtfo because they are actively harming America.
Posted on 12/10/25 at 9:06 am to stout
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the percentage of people coming here legally who are a net positive is very low
There in lies the problem with the whole system. It was designed for the 1960's when it was passed, and has not been modernized in 60 years. See my post earlier that if Congress would do their job and modernize the system we wouldn't be in this mess.
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They send money back 'home', taking billions out of the economy here.
FWIW I support the position about taxing remittances.
Posted on 12/10/25 at 9:17 am to HouseMom
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Juan in Kenner who's been there since 2005 working construction and has never been arrested isn't the problem
Then Juan has had TWENTY YEARS to figure out his paperwork but still hasn't done it. You know, when you travel internationally, you must show your passport no less than 972 times. In addition, upon return to the U.S. as a U.S. citizen, you must still go through security, show your passport, have your carry-on scanned AGAIN, and then...and only then...are you allowed to move on through.
Even with Global Entry you must take a picture on the app, have the kiosk scan your face, and then have the guard scan your face again to go through. This is all after you've had a prior meeting with an officer and submitted fingerprints.
I am a born and raised American with zero criminal record. So yeah, Juan can join the paperwork shite show that comes with being a U.S. Citizen, not to mention the hundreds of dollars all of this costs me, an American taxpayer.
Very unsurprising that this thread is several pages longer and this post got 0 replies
Well done
Posted on 12/10/25 at 9:18 am to lionward2014
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it's possible to want strong borders while also believing that rounding up and deporting everyone is not a viable strategy. Juan in Kenner who's been there since 2005 working construction and has never been arrested isn't the problem, but permanent resident Mohammed in Dearborn who was involved in a massive fraud scandal funneling money to Somali pirates surely is.
So, we just accept mohammed because Juan came here illegally first? Everyone wants to get mad at Trump, but Biden is where the anger should be directed. He is the reason Juan has to go. You have to get the illegals out. It is not sustainable and too many horrible violent illegals were let in, not to mention the trafficking that happened. They all have to go. Sorry, but it was the left that threw the turd in the punch bowl, and now all illegals have to pay. It's not the right or Trump's fault for upholding our laws.
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The irony is that you are calling them leaches stealing resources while also conceding they are working. Cut the welfare checks and you can maybe talk me into the need for mass deportations after.
Why not both concurrently?
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This is pure scapegoating. Most of the destabilization of established communities comes from groups that are here legally and/or are citizens.
I'm sure you have data to support this...
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