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re: Broome wants JBE to hold election later
Posted on 3/8/19 at 11:09 am to Golfer
Posted on 3/8/19 at 11:09 am to Golfer
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November 2019 election
I can't imagine Edwards would want this. I may be off base but I'm predicting a large turnout of the pro-St. George voters regardless of when the election for it is held. I'm also assuming that most of those will vote for whichever Republican is in a runoff for governor if given the opportunity. In an October primary, this really wouldn't make much of a difference, the governors race will not be won outright by anyone. However, if St. George is pushed back to November, you will have quite a few voters turnout to cast a ballot that would have otherwise stayed at home. If the governors race turns out to be close, I think this can only hurt Edwards.
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Posted on 3/8/19 at 11:09 am to doubleb
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They are alarmed by that 22 million dollar hole.
This is my main concern as someone that lives within the BR City Limits. Since half (or more than half) of the city wouldn't be paying property taxes due to homestead exemption...they're going to look to us to make up that $22M hole.
The hope would be that St. George would stop the flight from the parish and increase property values...meaning the City-Parish could maintain revenue sources accordingly.
Posted on 3/8/19 at 11:15 am to Golfer
Golfer, If I recall you lived off Bluebonnet and Burbank correct? Would you be considered a resident of of St. George?
This post was edited on 3/8/19 at 11:19 am
Posted on 3/8/19 at 11:17 am to LSUFanHouston
Doesn’t matter if Pig’s a-hole, LA, is 99% black if only 100 people live there.
The telling numbers are the percentage of the largest cities, which would be some combination of NOLA, BR, Laffy, Shreveport, Monroe, and St George. IIRC, St George would immediately become the 4th or 5th largest city in the state.
The telling numbers are the percentage of the largest cities, which would be some combination of NOLA, BR, Laffy, Shreveport, Monroe, and St George. IIRC, St George would immediately become the 4th or 5th largest city in the state.
Posted on 3/8/19 at 11:17 am to doubleb
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The mayor admitted last week that she needs the money to balance the parish budget. The rough numbers were a 50 million dollar loss to the parish general fund. 28 million of that would be offset by not having to provide services that SG would eventually provide.
Here's what I don't understand. Property taxes that are assessed on unincorporated areas, is there any legal mechanism that says that people in the new St. George area would no longer have to pay certain taxes if they are no longer taking those services from EBR? Logic tells me they shouldn't have to pay them, but legally, is that allowed?
Same goes for any parish-wide sales taxes.
Posted on 3/8/19 at 11:19 am to teke184
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The telling numbers are the percentage of the largest cities, which would be some combination of NOLA, BR, Laffy, Shreveport, Monroe, and St George. IIRC, St George would immediately become the 4th or 5th largest city in the state.
And I would imagine St George would likely be the "whitest" of that list of cities.
Which is why I don't think the whole "delay the election to turn out the black vote" is a valid thing. The black vote isn't there to turn out - in St. George. The "playbook" they use in the city of BR isn't going to work here.
Posted on 3/8/19 at 11:20 am to Mudminnow
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Golfer, If I recall you lived off Bluebonnet and Burbank correct?
Nope. I live in BR proper.
Posted on 3/8/19 at 11:26 am to LSUFanHouston
Demographics of incorporated LA cities-
BR - 50% black
NOLA - 60% black
Laffy - 28% black
Lake Charles - 47% black
Monroe- 61% black
Shreveport - 54% black
So you would be correct but it isn’t too far out of line with Lafayette.
And I bet those numbers go up if/when the new school system opens up.
BR - 50% black
NOLA - 60% black
Laffy - 28% black
Lake Charles - 47% black
Monroe- 61% black
Shreveport - 54% black
So you would be correct but it isn’t too far out of line with Lafayette.
And I bet those numbers go up if/when the new school system opens up.
Posted on 3/8/19 at 11:27 am to doubleb
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They will say and do anything, that statement is absurd.
Of course they will. They have tried since the inception of the St. George movement to convince voters that St. George is breaking away from the city, when in fact that's not true.
Posted on 3/8/19 at 11:28 am to teke184
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So you would be correct but it isn’t too far out of line with Lafayette.
Surprised by Lafayette, but I guess there aren't too many cajun blacks lol
Posted on 3/8/19 at 11:31 am to LSUFanHouston
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Yes but there are few places here that are average. Most places in LA are either far above or far below that percentage.
True, but those that paint SG as all white are wrong. SG is more diverse than they let on.
Now if their assertion is there aren't any slums in SG then I think they may be correct, but we are way more diverse than they would have you believe.
Posted on 3/8/19 at 11:35 am to doubleb
There would be slums, I’m sure. Just depends on where the lines are drawn, which is kind of hard to tell because the city borders of BR look like Michael J Fox drew them after his Parkinson’s diagnosis.
For example, there are some pretty shitty areas off Jefferson Highway near the merge with Airline Highway, but those might actually be in BR proper. Same deal with some areas of Sherwood.
For example, there are some pretty shitty areas off Jefferson Highway near the merge with Airline Highway, but those might actually be in BR proper. Same deal with some areas of Sherwood.
Posted on 3/8/19 at 11:44 am to LSUFanHouston
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Here's what I don't understand. Property taxes that are assessed on unincorporated areas, is there any legal mechanism that says that people in the new St. George area would no longer have to pay certain taxes if they are no longer taking those services from EBR? Logic tells me they shouldn't have to pay them, but legally, is that allowed?
Same goes for any parish
In a nutshell it's all about the 2% sales tax unincorporated areas pay which goes to the general fund.
Instead of going to the GF that 2% (or roughly 45/48 million dollars)would go to SG as it does in BR, Zachary, Baker and Central.
Property taxes that we in SG are all dedicated to parish wide millages (Library, BREC, EMS, etc.) or to he Sheriff or to SGFD.
Now there is a small 3.32 mill parish wide tax that isn't dedicated and I assume that it will still go to EBR Paridh. If I'm wrong someone can correct me, but all the other property taxes we pay in SG are dedicated to one thing or another.
SG or no SG, property taxes will remain the same.
Now an ISD is an entirely different subject.
Posted on 3/8/19 at 11:46 am to Golfer
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The hope would be that St. George would stop the flight from the parish and increase property values...meaning the City-Parish could maintain revenue sources accordingly
Exactly. If you take a hard look at it, St. George may actually be the last hope for a economically EBR Parish. You've got to stop the flight to the adjacent parishes somehow.
This post was edited on 3/8/19 at 11:48 am
Posted on 3/8/19 at 11:56 am to teke184
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BR - 50% black
NOLA - 60% black
Laffy - 28% black
Lake Charles - 47% black
Monroe- 61% black
Shreveport - 54% black
Bossier 26% black
Kenner 24% black/24% Hispanic
Houma 26% black
Alexandria 54% black
New Iberia 41% black
Central 10% black
Zachary 44% black
Baker 79% black
Other listings in EBR
Oak Hills Place 18% black
Old Jefferson 29% black
Village St. George 24.5% black
Gardere 52% black
Posted on 3/8/19 at 11:59 am to teke184
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For example, there are some pretty shitty areas off Jefferson Highway near the merge with Airline Highway, but those might actually be in BR proper. Same deal with some areas of Sherwood.
Compared to old Istrouma, The Bottoms and other areas; there's nothing close.
Posted on 3/8/19 at 12:01 pm to fallguy_1978
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It's not like the whole parish gets to vote on it.
The current city hall might genuinely not know or understand this.
Posted on 3/8/19 at 12:04 pm to sealawyer
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It's not like the whole parish gets to vote on it.
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The current city hall might genuinely not know or understand this.
Yeah this is what baffles me in the whole situation. So many people seem to think the whole parish votes yes or no for this.
Posted on 3/8/19 at 12:15 pm to TigerstuckinMS
quote:Wanna bet?
The governor cannot pick the day of the election
Posted on 3/8/19 at 12:19 pm to doubleb
Gardere was in the original petition but got dropped when they had to tighten the area for the new one, IIRC.
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