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re: British Airways to begin direct flights from New Orleans to London

Posted on 10/20/16 at 1:33 pm to
Posted by waiting4saturday
Covington, LA
Member since Sep 2005
11155 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 1:33 pm to
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That's what a staircase is for


Not that walk-way, the plane parking spot.
Posted by Roscoe
Member since Sep 2007
3099 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 1:35 pm to
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Yes and No. an A380 could land at MSY, but MSY doesn't have any gates equipped to handle it. an A380's wing is 50' wider than a 747's.


Aren't they building a new terminal at MSY that will open in 2018?
Posted by waiting4saturday
Covington, LA
Member since Sep 2005
11155 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 1:43 pm to
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Aren't they building a new terminal at MSY that will open in 2018?


yup

Apparently, they're already thinking they need to expand it since it will only have 30 gates (currently have 42).
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
131654 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 1:44 pm to
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Aren't they building a new terminal at MSY that will open in 2018?


Yes. One would assume they are smart enough to build it to allow more international flights and larger planes.
Posted by waiting4saturday
Covington, LA
Member since Sep 2005
11155 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 1:47 pm to
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Yes. One would assume they are smart enough to build it to allow more international flights and larger planes.


LOL oh you kids these days! I'm almost positive the new terminal will have less gates with access to US Customs than the current terminal.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79731 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 1:56 pm to
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Apparently, they're already thinking they need to expand it since it will only have 30 gates (currently have 42)


Why don't they just renovate part of the old terminal to accomplish this. Build a tram to the new terminal
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
16214 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 1:59 pm to
The big issue was the current airport does not have a central security screening point. Renovations would have just made the current airport more of a disjointed POS.
Posted by mooseofterror
USA
Member since Dec 2012
1495 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 2:05 pm to
May 2017 Condor will start flying MSY-->FRA direct as well
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 3:54 pm to
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LOL oh you kids these days! I'm almost positive the new terminal will have less gates with access to US Customs than the current terminal.


Number of gates is not the same thing as number of usable gates. New airport designs allow for fewer gates and better efficiency. Basically, you can have the same number of flight with far fewer total gates.
Posted by Solo
Member since Aug 2008
8257 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 4:05 pm to
Great news for NOLA and Louisiana.
Posted by crazycubes
Member since Jan 2016
5256 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 5:01 pm to
link to an actual non military A380 or 747 loaded with fuel and cargo using MSY. I'll wait
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 5:06 pm to
So instead of a Houston connection..
Posted by Shaun176
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
3173 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 5:45 pm to
A lot of Brits are in to Louisiana, Mississippi Delta area culture.

There's a singer, Seasick Steve, who is from California, but plays a southern accent and pretends to sing the Blues. He sells out concerts in the UK, but would be considered pretty mediocre here.

Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 5:54 pm to
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link to an actual non military A380 or 747 loaded with fuel and cargo using MSY. I'll wait



49ers and Buckeyes Football using a 747 to New Orleans







Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26627 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 5:57 pm to
Great news. I'd like to see more connections to domestic hubs out of BTR now too.

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didn't think MSY run way was long enough, good for New Orleans


787 will have ample space at MSY. They aren't massive planes. Hell, they've had regular service with 747's at Sint Maarteen even back when the runway was only 7,000 feet.

This post was edited on 10/20/16 at 6:00 pm
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79731 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 5:57 pm to
Damn, that dude didn't have to wait long.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 6:05 pm to
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They aren't massive planes


And couple that with the incredible fuel range and efficiency they have and you see why airlines can't buy enough of them and Boeing can't produce enough of them fast enough. They're opening up new destinations and new direct routes all over the world that weren't possible before in an economic sense.

The 787 has opened up the smaller markets to big and global airlines with its size, range and fuel efficiency and it allows a lot of people to bypass the hubs.

It's an incredible plane that's changing the airline industry forever and Airbus's A350 can't keep up with it.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26627 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 6:28 pm to
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The 787 has opened up the smaller markets to big and global airlines with its size, range and fuel efficiency and it allows a lot of people to bypass the hubs.



Very much so. It was designed for thin, long distance routes for markets too small to justify a 777, A380, or 747. New Orleans to a major European hub would be a good example of where the 787 is the best twin jet for the route. Seattle to some of the the Asian cities are another example.

IMO, Boeing needs to bring back an updated 757 to replace the older models used for those trans-Atlantic routes between mid market cities (like Pittsburgh or Baltimore) and the major hubs (like Paris or London). They would also be very popular for the trans-continental routes.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26627 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 6:33 pm to
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Yes and No. an A380 could land at MSY, but MSY doesn't have any gates equipped to handle it. an A380's wing is 50' wider than a 747's.


Unlikely that we'll see A380 service at MSY unless it becomes a hub.

I think Atlanta only has a couple of gates that can handle an A380. When Qatar airlines scheduled flights to ATL on the A380 earlier this year, Delta decided to be a dick and park a couple of jets at the gate the first couple of times they landed. Took over an hour to get everyone off the plane on mobile stairs.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 6:44 pm to
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Boeing needs to bring back an updated 757 to replace the older models used for those trans-Atlantic routes between mid market cities (like Pittsburgh or Baltimore) and the major hubs (like Paris or London).


Boeing really screwed up discontinuing the 757. They're going to get eaten alive by the A321 neo if they don't do something and they've already stretched the 737 out as far as they can before it just looks silly and becomes unstable and dangerous.

If Boeing can do great updates with the 747, 737, and 777 to the 747-8, 737 Max and 777x, the 757 should be no problem at all. Updated 757 would crush the A321 Neo.
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