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re: Breaking: A second health care worker has tested positive for Ebola in Dallas
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:17 am to Pilot Tiger
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:17 am to Pilot Tiger
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And I've maintained throughout this thread that the entire world needs to be involved for a travel ban to actually work now.
Would it be a ban on flights going to and from those areas?
Or, would it be a ban on flights AND passports from those countries? If it included passports, then somebody who flew from Sierra Leone to Paris to New York would still be barred from entering.
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Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:17 am to Winkface
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Guaranteed the hospital gets sued for not having proper protection.
Though probably true, that is a tough bit of litigation to pursue. Good luck finding a judge and jury that will not give the institution the benefit of the doubt, since CDC was involved and they're saying this is likely caused by poor protocol, top down.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:17 am to LSU alum wannabe
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Why were there ever that many in that room or dealing with that guy? Question was asked on CNN.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:18 am to WoWyHi
quote:where is this factual data coming from?
It's not just a different opinion, it's being wrong based upon factual information. It's fine to disagree but the fact is that sitting down west African travel would have a net positive effect on the possibility of ebola getting here from there, specifically
quote:except that, the summation from most in this thread is that the risk management protocol dictates a travel ban and as far as I know, there are no infectious disease experts or policy makers in this thread. Thus this entire thread is full of people's opinions
Like many others have said, it's basic risk management protocols. It's not that complicated.
This post was edited on 10/15/14 at 8:19 am
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:18 am to Pilot Tiger
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Until the disease is properly contained, banning travel to/from 1 ONE region isn't going to prevent a larger infection
Do you know how stupid that statement is?
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:21 am to CAD703X
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The CDC is a fricking joke
What did the CDC have to do with this again?
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:21 am to OLDBEACHCOMBER
quote:what time is it?
Do you know how stupid that statement is?
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:21 am to The Third Leg
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Good luck finding a judge and jury that will not give the institution the benefit of the doubt, since CDC was involved and they're saying this is likely caused by poor protocol, top down.
Someone approved the admission of an Ebola patient, or a team of someones. Somewhere in that team was a person responsible for insuring they had adequate equipment, facility, staff and training to not only treat the patient effectively, that they could protect their staff and other patients in the facility.
I don't see it as that difficult of a case.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:23 am to tigerfoot
Is there evidence that the patient wasn't treated effectively, other than the fact that he died?
that sounded bad
that sounded bad
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:24 am to Pilot Tiger
quote:also known as learning from mistakes...
because I think anytime something bad happens, it's easy to look back and see a million ways to prevent it
quote:not necessarily, just like the entire world doesn't have to be in on sanctions against a rogue country for them to work...
And I've maintained throughout this thread that the entire world needs to be involved for a travel ban to actually work now.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:27 am to The Third Leg
The CDC was not involved in what the hospital was doing. Hospital thoughy they could handle it. CDC thought the hospital could handle it. That's the problem. They are now changing that of course.
This post was edited on 10/15/14 at 8:28 am
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:30 am to Chicken
Chicken, while I have your ear, can I email you to discuss a name change? This dumb arse user name (I know it's my fault for picking it) completely derails any serious discussions I try and have here because of what the acronym stands for. I'd appreciate at least some consideration of a change if possible.
Pilot, I'll look for the supporting data, but for now and without getting too much into it, you'll just have to trust me.
Pilot, I'll look for the supporting data, but for now and without getting too much into it, you'll just have to trust me.
This post was edited on 10/15/14 at 8:32 am
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:32 am to Pilot Tiger
They sent him home from the ER with antibiotics (which I don't think work for viral infections) after he told them he'd been in Liberia. That seems like a frick-up to me.
They left the ambulance in service for two days after transporting Ebolaboy back to the hospital. That also seems potentially problematic.
Who knows how many people were exposed while he was being triaged in the ER.
They left the ambulance in service for two days after transporting Ebolaboy back to the hospital. That also seems potentially problematic.
Who knows how many people were exposed while he was being triaged in the ER.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:33 am to Double Oh
Centers for Disease Control.
Not sure how much controlling is going on...
Not sure how much controlling is going on...
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:33 am to RollTide1987
The numbers are in: the WHO expects 10,000 cases PER WEEK with a 70% fatality rate.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:34 am to Winkface
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CDC thought the hospital could handle it.
This was a major failure on their part. Most hospitals are not set up specifically for ebola containment. They already knew this.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:34 am to Chicken
I think the unintended consequences of a US only travel ban could be worse than what happened in Texas.
I think you start seeing desperate people do desperate things. I think you see people go to other countries and I think you see people end up in the US and we have no clue where they are.
I think you start seeing desperate people do desperate things. I think you see people go to other countries and I think you see people end up in the US and we have no clue where they are.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:34 am to WoWyHi
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Pilot, I'll look for the supporting data, but for now and without getting too much into it, you'll just have to trust me.
With a user name like THAT? Surely you jest.
on topic...Ebola is bad.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:34 am to LNCHBOX
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What did the CDC have to do with this again?
Not requiring the same safety protocols at hospitals THEY AS THE CDC use when treating Ebola.
This post was edited on 10/15/14 at 8:36 am
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