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re: BR as the floodwaters abate...

Posted on 8/15/16 at 1:30 pm to
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
102347 posts
Posted on 8/15/16 at 1:30 pm to
You will, it will start with food trucks.
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Posted by crankbait
Member since Feb 2008
11650 posts
Posted on 8/15/16 at 1:32 pm to
quote:

no person, master plan, engineering feat can drain two foot of rainfall in a 48 hr span



of course you can, you just need money to do it
Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
27993 posts
Posted on 8/15/16 at 1:35 pm to
quote:

premium because the livable real estate supply was just shrunk and the home itself is instantly more valuable than an exact comp that did get water.


Bingo

And new devs will build up above summer 16 flood levels (not an option for some I know)
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26627 posts
Posted on 8/15/16 at 1:35 pm to
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houses that never flooded in the past will be worth less now than they were a week ago



Meh. Homes in flood zones were already worth less than homes outside of them. I think people will look very carefully at those 100 year flood maps in the future. State officials will be pressured to design flood maps that can measure the impact of back flow dynamics and hopefully they build the fricking diversion canal already.

There were homes that were never flooded before this storm and will likely never be flooded again in our lifetimes.

Hope those of you that rent apartments have a nice, long lease. Those rates are going to rise very soon.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26627 posts
Posted on 8/15/16 at 1:36 pm to
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There's no wind damage so that's at least a small positive.


A lot of the damaged homes have under a foot of water damage and are not total losses. That's a positive.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91871 posts
Posted on 8/15/16 at 1:36 pm to
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How anyone in South Louisiana, in 2016, could elect not to buy flood insurance..... it boggles the mind.


I mean I can understand someone not having insurance that may not be required, but if so, you should be self-insuring. Financially, on average, you're better off without the insurance, so I get the logic, but you should put away the money you're "saving" for the same purpose.
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Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
108711 posts
Posted on 8/15/16 at 1:36 pm to
I don't see what can be done to prevent historically bad flooding. It happened in TX last spring. There isn't much of an answer aside from build levees if possible...get flood insutance...move to higher ground
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91871 posts
Posted on 8/15/16 at 1:39 pm to
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I don't see what can be done to prevent historically bad flooding


It should be handled on a cost benefit basis. You can alleviate the river flooding by dredging the Amite River and making it 10x as deep for 117 miles, but at what cost? The reason BR hasn't done more is the same reason individual residents don't purchase flood insurance - they've deemed it a net negative.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70176 posts
Posted on 8/15/16 at 1:40 pm to
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There were homes that were never flooded before this storm and will likely never be flooded again in our lifetimes.


True but their value will take a hit...for how long depends on the consumer
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
57350 posts
Posted on 8/15/16 at 1:41 pm to
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I mean I can understand someone not having insurance that may not be required, but if so, you should be self-insuring


I hate being over-insured but when the cost is co negligible, I feel irresponsible if I don't get it.

I took out a 20k life insurance policy on my 6 year old daughter (added to mine) because it is literally $12 a year. I don't think I'll need it but if something were to happen it's a blessing to have.

For $30-$40/month, I was amazed at how many people passed on flood insurance simply because it wasn't required. I had no clue so few people in the state had it till this last week.

Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
102347 posts
Posted on 8/15/16 at 1:41 pm to
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A lot of the damaged homes have under a foot of water damage and are not total losses. That's a positive.


Lot of people in Jefferson Parish got under a foot and you saw a lot of people pulling out all the drywall and throwing all the furniture away. Maybe with the way insurance companies have restructured that won't be as common.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26627 posts
Posted on 8/15/16 at 1:42 pm to
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There's really a ton of available property, just east of downtown, and stretching for about 2-3 miles outward, that I always thought was ripe for development in the coming years and under the right scenario. It would be good to see this event be that scenario.



Things are already in the works there. I don't think you'll see people displaced move into those areas as the housing isn't there yet and the format of the housing planned there is much more dense (as it should be that close to downtown)....but you probably will see more development focus in that area in the future especially if mortgage rates stay low and rental prices rise.

Rental rates will rise after this storm.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
30397 posts
Posted on 8/15/16 at 1:43 pm to
My aunt/uncle had been in their home for over 40 yrs and never had a hint of flooding.

Do they rebuild ? Who knows.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 8/15/16 at 1:44 pm to
quote:

is this katrina/rita bad?
yep



The flooding is bad, but the big difference is electricity and being able to re-entry the area a lot sooner for cleanup.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26627 posts
Posted on 8/15/16 at 1:46 pm to
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True but their value will take a hit...for how long depends on the consumer



Homes outside the 100 year flood zone will be fine once repaired.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70176 posts
Posted on 8/15/16 at 1:47 pm to
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Homes outside the 100 year flood zone will be fine once repaired


This must be where your home is

if so I am not laughing that your home was damaged
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17356 posts
Posted on 8/15/16 at 1:50 pm to
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i don't think i blame the EBR metro council for this happening. but i'd blame them if they didn't put in some fullscale counter measures for the future if possible.



The diversion project was designed in response to the 1983 flood, which was not near as bad as 2016.

IMO the state deserves some blame for never having funded that.

$200 million project vs billions in damage? They'd rather chance it.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91871 posts
Posted on 8/15/16 at 1:56 pm to
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$200 million project vs billions in damage? They'd rather chance it.


Do you blame them? If the project is solely focused on flood control and cost $200M, but it prevents a 500-year flood event, then the only way that project should get a green light is if the damages exceed $100B from this event.

It isn't that cut and dry, but you get the idea.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26627 posts
Posted on 8/15/16 at 1:57 pm to
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This must be where your home is



I thankfully do not own property that was damaged in this storm.

I just don't see how the impact of this disaster differs from what happened in Moore, Joplin, and other "once in a generation" catastrophes. This flood was not a normal or measurable threat for a lot of families that were impacted - and the likelihood of them incurring damage from another flood of that magnitude is far less than that of damage from fire, hurricanes, or more typical flash flooding scenarios.


quote:

if so I am not laughing that your home was damaged


Do you own property that was not flooded? What is your motivation for wishful thinking for doom and gloom like this?
Posted by DupontsCircle
Dupont Circle
Member since Jun 2016
5823 posts
Posted on 8/15/16 at 1:58 pm to
It should have flooded the entire area in North Gates of LSU to the Bridge.
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