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re: Border Patrol-involved shooting in Minneapolis; person shot was allegedly armed

Posted on 1/25/26 at 11:58 am to
Posted by DrrTiger
Gulf of America
Member since Nov 2023
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 11:58 am to
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This is probably the biggest “jump the shark” moment I’ve seen from the MAGA crowd.

I used to be fully on the Trump Train but these idiots have left me behind and seriously think if they keep saying ICE were fighting for their lives against an armed terrorist that suddenly the video won’t show an execution.


That's because you easily fall for propaganda.

You probably also thought George Floyd was murdered by police in May 2020 like 90% of this place did at the time (also in Minnesota if you haven't connected those dots).

Y'all continue to fall for the same leftist psyops.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
28002 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 12:00 pm to
quote:

Y'all continue to fall for the same leftist psyops


You think this was a leftist psyop?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 12:00 pm to
quote:

That's because you easily fall for propaganda.

You probably also thought George Floyd was murdered by police in May 2020 like 90% of this place did at the time (also in Minnesota if you haven't connected those dots).

Y'all continue to fall for the same leftist psyops.


This ain't the situation to be posting that silliness
This post was edited on 1/25/26 at 12:01 pm
Posted by rintintin
Life is Life
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 12:01 pm to
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Can anyone still reading this thread and not bleeding all over it give a synopsis of current knowledge?

The main question I have is did he have the gun on his person or did he fish it out of the backpack during the scuffle?


The best timeline of events I've seen:

1. The guy was videoed (by a passing car) being face to face with BP agents which seems to be several minutes before the scuffle.

2. The next video shows him getting involved when agents were pushing a woman to the ground. He seemed more on the defensive rather than offensive but certainly injecting himself into the situation.

3. This is when the big scuffle happens and 5-6 other agents get involved and try to subdue him. He resists, but there's no sign of a gun at this point.

4. A video shows agents possibly disarming him (from his pants) during the scuffle. Not sure if definitive but it seems that way.

5. Thereafter, an agents appears to yell "gun" around the same time shots were fired killing him. I haven't seen anything indicating that he drew his weapon or fired shots.

Based on the above, my take is that he got himself involved by intruding with agents (video 1). Agents were a bit overzealous with some sky screaming women and the guy tried to intervene (video 2). He resisted, but agents were a bit trigger happy considering the circumstances.

Of course everyone will need to pick a side and yell back and forth about who was right / wrong. But the reality is that it was a shitty and avoidable situation from both parties, that resulted in someone being killed.
This post was edited on 1/25/26 at 12:03 pm
Posted by STLhog
Dallas, TX
Member since Jan 2015
19542 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 12:01 pm to
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You're not wrong in the abstract, but as LEO, why create such a situation when it wasn't necessary?


I don't disagree, but as an individual citizen, why do the same bringing a fricking Sig Sauer into the same situation?

Would this dude have been shot had there been no gun?

Doesn't matter at this point but probably not.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
80734 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 12:02 pm to
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The ice agents here never had reasonable fear for their life.
Border patrol, not ICE
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
40378 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 12:02 pm to
This is the most lay-up, “prove you have one ounce of fricking ability left to not side with your tribe” event I can recall and these folks are just doubling and tripling down

Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19863 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 12:02 pm to
quote:

would've never happened if ICE didn't START attacking non violent protestors


Protester was actively confronting ICE agents, would've never happened if the protesters had kept their proper distance. Amazing you are too stupid to figure this out.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23461 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 12:03 pm to
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Protester was actively confronting ICE agents, would've never happened if the protesters had kept their proper distance. Amazing you are too stupid to figure this out.


lsupride87, give 'em the gif
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
25961 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 12:04 pm to
Prettty accurate
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
28002 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 12:04 pm to
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was actively confronting ICE agents


Still non violent, still not worthy of assaulting them. Try again
This post was edited on 1/25/26 at 12:05 pm
Posted by STLhog
Dallas, TX
Member since Jan 2015
19542 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 12:04 pm to
Good post.

There is a very visible video out there that highlights his hands and the gun.

Gun is visibly strapped to his back in a holster and his hands don't really go near it.

At some point in the scuffle, whether pre/post removal of the gun, someone yells "gun" and shots are fired.

All of which happened within 5-10 seconds of chaos where the disarmament or even the clarity of this being his only gun would likely have been difficult.
This post was edited on 1/25/26 at 12:09 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 12:05 pm to
quote:

This is the most lay-up, “prove you have one ounce of fricking ability left to not side with your tribe” event I can recall and these folks are just doubling and tripling down


The funny thing is I think I've been on the right side of all of these situations going back to at least Trayvon Martin, including George Floyd, Michael Brown, and Saint Kyle.

This one?

Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
140798 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 12:05 pm to
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Of course everyone will need to pick a side and yell back and forth about who was right / wrong. But the reality is that it was a shitty and avoidable situation from both parties, that resulted in someone being killed.


I agree its avoidable, but I put that on the people that keep getting too close to the police. Protest from across the street, and for sure, don't have guns on you or make sudden movements after a gun has been seen.

Why are people physically engaging with police? That's never going to end well for anyone involved.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
28002 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 12:06 pm to
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and these folks are just doubling and tripling down


The leaps people take to protect their side is truly a product of trump inciting all of this. He made it us vs them. Always did
Posted by DrrTiger
Gulf of America
Member since Nov 2023
2612 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 12:07 pm to
quote:

This is the most lay-up, “prove you have one ounce of fricking ability left to not side with your tribe” event I can recall and these folks are just doubling and tripling down


Really? I thought that would have been back in September when a guy was talking into a microphone and was assassinated because your side didn't like his words.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 12:07 pm to
quote:

Really? I thought that would have been back in September when a guy was talking into a microphone and was assassinated because your side didn't like his words.


Productive, relevant post.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
40378 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 12:09 pm to
I thought and still think that what happened to Kirk was horrible

I don’t know anyone in my personal life who felt otherwise

I can’t even recall a high ranking democrat in office who thought otherwise. All the faces of the party sent prayers and condolences.

Just a bunch of Reddit and Twitter edge lords were the ones I saw approving of it

You wanna be like them?
Posted by Horsemeat
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 12:09 pm to
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Why are people physically engaging with police? That's never going to end well for anyone involved.
Because Tampon Tim and his commie cronies are out there telling people that ICE isn't law enforcement, which is a blatant lie and is getting people killed.
Posted by pankReb
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Member since Mar 2009
73284 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 12:10 pm to
My bad.
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