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Posted on 9/10/15 at 1:44 pm to LordSaintly
Yeah, it's built "into" the only hill in town, and therefore has a strange multi-level floor plan.
This accommodation would be a giant pain in the arse.
He has his rights, and I support that. If it were me, I'd just go elsewhere.
This accommodation would be a giant pain in the arse.
He has his rights, and I support that. If it were me, I'd just go elsewhere.
Posted on 9/10/15 at 1:49 pm to G Vice
You would think in a case like this, IF the government decides it needs to be upgraded, then there should be some sort of government grant that would assist in making the improvements. But our arse backwards way of doing things will be just shut it down and let everyone lose.
Posted on 9/10/15 at 1:51 pm to Barf
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The ADA laws aren't retroactive.
Didn't know that. Then yeah, he may lose.
Posted on 9/10/15 at 1:53 pm to LordSaintly
Bring back the epic Scott Alan Stagg and pack the place again.
Posted on 9/10/15 at 1:55 pm to coopsdad
Have an upvote with my complete agreement.
You are now seeing public swimming pools, including hotel pools, retrofitting with mechanical chair lifts to accommodate people with disabilities. And that's a good thing IMO.
You are now seeing public swimming pools, including hotel pools, retrofitting with mechanical chair lifts to accommodate people with disabilities. And that's a good thing IMO.
Posted on 9/10/15 at 1:59 pm to LordSaintly
Not understanding, If he lives downtown that means he has to pass in front of Dominos and Papa Johns on Johnston Street before he get's to Bisbano's. Probably save those batteries and tires from having to work so hard.
And Music, downtown must have more than a dozen places to go and listen.
PFFT
And Music, downtown must have more than a dozen places to go and listen.
PFFT
Posted on 9/10/15 at 2:04 pm to TigerGman
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Even worse when you're stuck in a wheel chair for the rest of your life and a guy promises to make a few simple changes for you then weasels out.
How about just don't go. fricking douche in the wheelchair.
Posted on 9/10/15 at 2:08 pm to TigerGman
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Even worse when you're stuck in a wheel chair for the rest of your life and a guy promises to make a few simple changes for you then weasels out.
Get your pizza somewhere else.
Posted on 9/10/15 at 2:11 pm to Prosecuted Collins
quote:His fiery, crack-rock induced solos were the shite.
Bring back the epic Scott Alan Stagg and pack the place again.
Posted on 9/10/15 at 2:14 pm to blueboy
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“I can’t tell you how many times I’ve been invited to Bisbano’s by friends and have had to turn them down because I can’t get in,” Doyle said.
What kind of friends don't help wheel you up the step?
Dude should be sueing his friends for no care.
Or maybe his "friends" go to Bisbano's specifically because he can't. Ever think of that Doylie?
Posted on 9/10/15 at 2:32 pm to Meauxjeaux
His friends are the dicks here, they keep going where he can't.
Posted on 9/10/15 at 2:33 pm to CaptainsWafer
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His friends are the dicks here, they keep going where he can't.
Maybe they just don't like him very much.
Posted on 9/10/15 at 3:19 pm to blueboy
frick the ADA.
Most unconstitutional infringement on property rights in the history of the United States.
Most unconstitutional infringement on property rights in the history of the United States.
Posted on 9/10/15 at 3:26 pm to blueboy
How many hole in the wall restaurants would have to close if they start sueing all of them?
I feel for the person with the disability that just wants a pizza but this is getting ridiculous.
I feel for the person with the disability that just wants a pizza but this is getting ridiculous.
Posted on 9/10/15 at 3:29 pm to Barf
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The ADA laws aren't retroactive. I don't think he has a snowballs chance in hell of winning.
Is that entirely correct? I might be wrong, but I thought the grandfather provision required you to make some upgrades to the extent that you could (taking into consideration use, purpose, cost, etc.)
Found this on a quick google:
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The ADA does not have a provision to "grandfather" a facility but it does have a provision called “safe harbor” in the revised ADA regulations for businesses and state and local governments. A "safe harbor" means that you do not have to make modifications to elements in an existing building that comply with the 1991 Standards, even if the new 2010 Standards have different requirements for them. This provision is applied on an element-by-element basis. However, if you choose to alter elements that were in compliance with the 1991 Standards, the safe harbor no longer applies so the altered elements must comply with the 2010 ADA Standards.
A “safe harbor” does not apply to elements that were NOT addressed in the original 1991 Standards but ARE addressed in the 2010 ADA Standards. These elements include recreation facilities such as swimming pools, play areas, exercise machines, miniature golf facilities, and bowling alleys. On or after March 15, 2012, public accommodations must remove architectural barriers to these elements listed above are subject to the new requirements in the 2010 Standards when it is readily achievable to do so.
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Posted on 9/10/15 at 3:36 pm to Meauxjeaux
quote:That's why I call bullshite. Who would repeatedly invite the guy to a place they know he can't go? And the only way to get him bathroom access would be to build one upstairs, so it's way out of the "reasonable" scope of the law.
“I can’t tell you how many times I’ve been invited to Bisbano’s by friends and have had to turn them down because I can’t get in,” Doyle said.
What kind of friends don't help wheel you up the step?
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Or maybe his "friends" go to Bisbano's specifically because he can't. Ever think of that Doylie?
Posted on 9/10/15 at 3:39 pm to TigerGman
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Even worse when you're stuck in a wheel chair for the rest of your life and a guy promises to make a few simple changes for you then weasels out.
You apparently can't read.
What he said was he'd look into it.
Posted on 9/10/15 at 3:43 pm to blueboy
What happened to being able to refuse service to anyone? It's your business.
Posted on 9/10/15 at 4:08 pm to tigerbutt
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What happened to being able to refuse service to anyone? It's your business.
You can't do it based off of race, religion, disability, etc. I can't stand people who have nothing better to do than go ruin someone else's life. Is not being able to roll into one place in town that big of a deal? If this guy does have to close his business I hope they run the plaintiff out of town.
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