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re: Bisbano’s owner: lawsuit could shutter business

Posted on 9/10/15 at 4:10 pm to
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 9/10/15 at 4:10 pm to
They've been running this racket for years. There's some a-hole in CA who drives the state town to town extorting businesses while on "holiday"
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 9/10/15 at 4:13 pm to
I hope someone rolls Liam Doyle into a river then gives his lawyer and anyone involved in the lawsuit on his behalf some cement shoes to join him
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68775 posts
Posted on 9/10/15 at 4:15 pm to
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“I can’t tell you how many times I’ve been invited to Bisbano’s by friends and have had to turn them down because I can’t get in,” Doyle said. “That is the worst feeling in the world. It’s so disheartening. It’s just the worst.”


That's the worst?

So this guy can't have pizza inside and will potentially screw others?

If the owner makes the changes, can't he still refuse service to this guy independent of a disability?
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68775 posts
Posted on 9/10/15 at 4:21 pm to
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That's why I call bullshite. Who would repeatedly invite the guy to a place they know he can't go?


People who really don't want him around.
Posted by CWS91
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2005
1011 posts
Posted on 9/10/15 at 4:45 pm to
Wow. Those of you with all the "FU" comments to the disabled guy better be on your knees thanking God you aren't in this guy's shoes.

It is an unfortunate situation for all involved but I don't see this ending without the pizza guy making the minimal accomodations per ADA or the place being shut down for non-compliance. I'm surprised this issue hasn't come up before now because pizza guy has had almost 25 years to become ADA compliant. It's the price of doing business today. And no, the government shouldn't be paying to do this.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56779 posts
Posted on 9/10/15 at 4:54 pm to
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Wow. Those of you with all the "FU" comments to the disabled guy better be on your knees thanking God you aren't in this guy's shoes.
No one is putting the guy down for being handicapped.
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I don't see this ending without the pizza guy making the minimal accomodations per ADA or the place being shut down for non-compliance
If he's not complying, I doubt that it's because he just doesn't want to. If you've been there, you'd know it's impossible to comply with the restroom requirement without relocating it at great expense. One ramp isn't going to satisfy this, or he would have done it long ago.
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And no, the government shouldn't be paying to do this.
Yes they should.
Posted by TigerGman
Center of the Universe
Member since Sep 2006
11354 posts
Posted on 9/10/15 at 4:57 pm to
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No one is putting the guy down for being handicapped.


Really?

Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
71135 posts
Posted on 9/10/15 at 4:58 pm to
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I'm surprised this issue hasn't come up before now because pizza guy has had almost 25 years to become ADA compliant


I'm pretty sure he's had 25 years of not having to do shite because he was grandfathered in.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
34322 posts
Posted on 9/10/15 at 5:01 pm to
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I'm pretty sure he's had 25 years of not having to do shite because he was grandfathered in.


This. My family had the oldest restaurant in Slidell. We didn't have to do any of the changes. Running a restaurant is tough and having the money to become ADA compliant probably isn't a priority.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36181 posts
Posted on 9/10/15 at 5:17 pm to
If this were a highly prosperous business or a new business I'd side with the handicapped person. But neither of those seem to apply - the right of a person to be able to earn a living seems to me to be a more fundamental right than the right of the potential plaintiff to eat on site at the business in question.
This post was edited on 9/10/15 at 5:19 pm
Posted by lsubeerguy
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2015
43 posts
Posted on 9/10/15 at 5:52 pm to
Why doesn't the wheelchair dude and his friends start a go fund me account for the bathroom and ramp. I bet the citizens will all pitch in and then everyone wins.
Posted by LSUDUKE
Lafayette
Member since Oct 2007
1045 posts
Posted on 9/10/15 at 6:43 pm to
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Bring back the epic Scott Alan Stagg and pack the place again.

He still plays there quite often. If I were in this guy's position, yes, it sucks that I'm in a wheelchair but life is unfair in many different ways. I lost a good bit of my family when I was young and our house burnt down, you just have to deal with it. The Bisbano's whole layout is sloped and just not friendly for someone on wheels. I would never try to bankrupt a place just because I couldn't eat there.
Posted by SamuelClemens
Earth
Member since Feb 2015
11727 posts
Posted on 9/10/15 at 7:06 pm to
How about he build an entrance ramp and let's drop the lawsuit?
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 9/10/15 at 7:17 pm to
You can't be this dumb

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frick the ADA.

Most unconstitutional infringement on property rights in the history of the United States.


Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56779 posts
Posted on 9/10/15 at 7:23 pm to
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How about he build an entrance ramp and let's drop the lawsuit?
If that were all it took, he'd have done it, but that's only a small part of what they want.
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 9/10/15 at 7:33 pm to
What else do they want besides accessibility? All I've read is for the removal of the step and changes to the bathroom and downstairs. To all those complaining I hope you don't ever have devastating injury that leaves you or your loves one disabled. It will truly show you how hard life can be.
Posted by LSUDUKE
Lafayette
Member since Oct 2007
1045 posts
Posted on 9/10/15 at 7:41 pm to
I understand if you're talking about a new business that doesn't want to accommodate handicapped people but this place is decades old. In speaking of Louisiana terms the parking lot is very steep going from one end to the other and getting from the parking lot to the sidewalk in front is twice that bad. You can enter the cellar from outside or inside. To make it accessible inside you would need an elevator, from the outside you would need a large construction project that would take up alot of the patio section. I've been going there for many years and this isn't a chic club that makes a ton of money. They have open mic nights and live acts that were lame 20 years ago. Trust me, this guy just needs to get his pizza elsewhere.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56779 posts
Posted on 9/10/15 at 7:49 pm to
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changes to the bathroom and downstairs.
If by that you mean building a new bathroom upstairs at a high cost, then yes, but surely that doesn't fit into the "reasonable" scope mentioned in the law as it applies to grandfathered businesses.
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