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re: Birmingham Schools Graduates to Get Free College Tuition
Posted on 8/28/19 at 7:02 am to GetCocky11
Posted on 8/28/19 at 7:02 am to GetCocky11
You would be correct.
The Birmingham metro has umpteen different municipalities. The ones south of the city are generally pretty good. To the west is hell (Bessemer has one of the highest crime rates anywhere). To the north and east is a crapshoot.
The Birmingham metro has umpteen different municipalities. The ones south of the city are generally pretty good. To the west is hell (Bessemer has one of the highest crime rates anywhere). To the north and east is a crapshoot.
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Posted on 8/28/19 at 7:08 am to HempHead
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Bessemer has one of the highest crime rates anywhere
I'll keep that in mind because I've come very close to staying in Bessemer when passing through when on the road, but I usually end up staying in Hoover.
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The Birmingham metro has umpteen different municipalities.
It is interesting how different states administer their schools. Back in SC, there are no city school districts. However, when looking at the map, the Birmingham MSA has a ton of individual city school districts. Seems like a shite ton of money could be saved if they were consolidated into 1 or 2 school districts per county.
This post was edited on 8/28/19 at 7:10 am
Posted on 8/28/19 at 7:10 am to GetCocky11
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Seems like a shite ton of money could be saved if they were consolidated into 1 or 2 school districts per county.
Then all the white folks would move more in to Shelby, St. Clair, Talladega, and Blount counties.
There used to not be such a wide variety. You can take a guess as to why they all popped up (sans Mountain Brook) in the past 50 years.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 7:15 am to HempHead
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Seems like a shite ton of money could be saved if they were consolidated into 1 or 2 school districts per county.
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Then all the white folks would move more in to Shelby, St. Clair, Talladega, and Blount counties.
I mean, it is possible. However, I'd say that the same level of school segregation that I'm assuming exists now between say the separate Birmingham and Hoover schools would still exist in a hypothetical "Jefferson-Shelby School District 1". The Hoover High attendance zone would be just as valued. Again, this is just based on my personal experiences which is obviously going to be different from everyone else's.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 7:17 am to GetCocky11
In general, I like the idea of consolidated school zones (and even municipal government on the county level ala Nashville-Davidson), but EVERYONE would shite a brick around Birmingham if that tried to happen.
Mostly I support consolidation because it would trim a lot of fat on the administrative level. No reason there should be a few dozen cats in one county making 150k+ on a school board.
Mostly I support consolidation because it would trim a lot of fat on the administrative level. No reason there should be a few dozen cats in one county making 150k+ on a school board.
This post was edited on 8/28/19 at 7:18 am
Posted on 8/28/19 at 7:21 am to Rouge
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You might see a lot of private school kids and kids from out of the area transfer just for their last semester to work the system.
Wasn’t there a recent news story about this happening in Illinois? Kids being “adopted” by a relative to job the system?
Posted on 8/28/19 at 7:24 am to StringedInstruments
The first responsibility of a society is to keep its citizens safe. The second is to educate them so that they can feed themselves, clothe themselves and provide shelter for themselves and their offspring.
If we would end government welfare, we could afford to provide taxpayer-funded college educations for every citizen.
If we would end government welfare, we could afford to provide taxpayer-funded college educations for every citizen.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 7:25 am to Kentucker
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If we would end government welfare, we could afford to provide taxpayer-funded college educations for every citizen.
If we do that, colleges need to become a lot more spartan in their facilities and much more selective. You can't just fund every chucklefrick who can manage a 3.0 and 21 on their ACT to go to some shitty state school to study basket weaving.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 7:33 am to GetCocky11
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So, I'm guessing this free tuition program is more of a good PR stunt which won't have a ton of utilization.
I taught a former valedictorian from Jackson Olin High School one year at a community college. She couldn’t write a paragraph.
I’m guessing this funding will go towards smaller schools like community colleges, HBCUs, or directional programs in the state (West Alabama, Jacksonville State, North Alabama, etc). I don’t believe the city will be paying a lot of Alabama, Auburn, or Samford levels of tuition.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 7:35 am to StringedInstruments
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I taught a former valedictorian from Jackson Olin High School one year at a community college. She couldn’t write a paragraph.
Holy shite.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 7:42 am to HempHead
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every chucklefrick who can manage a 3.0 and 21 on their ACT
Hey now
Posted on 8/28/19 at 7:42 am to StringedInstruments
Georgia already has free college for students who have a 3.7 GPA and at least a 26 in the ACT.
I told my kids if they want to go away to school and not go to a college while living at home they must qualify for the free college.
I'm 1 for 1 so far, but the other two appear to be on track.
I strongly believe kids need a goal to work for and have something to motivate them.
For my kids going to UGA is that motivation.
And yes, I am an Auburn grad, but free is tough to compete with.
And even I admit UGA is a good school.
I told my kids if they want to go away to school and not go to a college while living at home they must qualify for the free college.
I'm 1 for 1 so far, but the other two appear to be on track.
I strongly believe kids need a goal to work for and have something to motivate them.
For my kids going to UGA is that motivation.
And yes, I am an Auburn grad, but free is tough to compete with.
And even I admit UGA is a good school.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 7:42 am to Rouge
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You might see a lot of private school kids and kids from out of the area transfer just for their last semester to work the system.
I'd imagine there is some provision in place to prevent that from happening.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 7:44 am to The Spleen
I have a hard time believing in the competency of local government enough to ensure that no one exploits an obvious action.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 7:51 am to StringedInstruments
This is a terrible idea.
It's like no one has ever picked up a book on economics before. The law of supply and demand demands that if you have a great supply of something, that the market will correct the price of the supply to meet the demand. In this case, if you make college education "free", you will thus devalue all college degrees.
Gov't wasn't designed to solve every problem. Let these frickers figure it out on their own.
It's like no one has ever picked up a book on economics before. The law of supply and demand demands that if you have a great supply of something, that the market will correct the price of the supply to meet the demand. In this case, if you make college education "free", you will thus devalue all college degrees.
Gov't wasn't designed to solve every problem. Let these frickers figure it out on their own.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 7:54 am to HempHead
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Mostly I support consolidation because it would trim a lot of fat on the administrative level. No reason there should be a few dozen cats in one county making 150k+ on a school board.
I can't imagine sending my kids to a school run by the same clowns that run Bham City Schools. It would lead to a boom in private schools like you see in LA.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 7:54 am to GetCocky11
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I'll keep that in mind because I've come very close to staying in Bessemer when passing through when on the road, but I usually end up staying in Hoover.
Most of the places off just off the interstate in Bessemer are fine, especially the Academy Dr area. I wouldn't let Bessemer's reputation for crime deter you from staying anywhere off that exit. And the Bessemer area exits off 459 are fine as well.
Not to say there's no crime there, but most of it is the same petty crime you'll experience in Hoover - car break-ins mostly. I mean, it seems like almost monthly now there's a shooting at the Riverchase Galleria in Hoover.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 7:55 am to The Spleen
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Most of the places off just off the interstate in Bessemer are fine, especially the Academy Dr area. I wouldn't let Bessemer's reputation for crime deter you from staying anywhere off that exit. And the Bessemer area exits off 459 are fine as well.
Yeah, I should have added that there are decent parts of Bessemer.
It's just the old downtown and surrounding neighborhoods that need to be avoided - but that isn't tough. Not sure if there are any hotels around there anyway. Fairfield and Midfield are just as bad. Hueytown and McCalla aren't great but they aren't absolutely terrible.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 7:59 am to Aubie Spr96
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It's like no one has ever picked up a book on economics before. The law of supply and demand demands that if you have a great supply of something, that the market will correct the price of the supply to meet the demand. In this case, if you make college education "free", you will thus devalue all college degrees.
They're not making it "free." It's basically just a scholarship, and scholarships have been around for decades. And if it motivates kids to work hard to earn that and go to college, I think it's a great thing. Especially when you look at historical results for Bham City Schools.
This isn't directed at you, but I'm just not a fan of the shitting on students in this district for being lazy, no-good thugs, then shitting on a policy aimed at maybe breaking that cycle of poverty so many of them are born into. Even the wealthy and privileged in society need a helping hand up every now and then.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 8:06 am to Ssubba
I like it. Good for them.
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