re: Biracial UT-Austin student hit with backlash for winning black pageant

Nah she's black for me. Black can be as dark as night or as pale as sinbad or lighter.

These strifes are petty and stupid, and don't help for intra-unity.

And I especially hate it when it gets out in a public forum because it allows those ignorant about blackness to spew their ignorance and solidify their lack of knowledge

Then why is there such a backlash against this beautiful young lady (for not being black enough)?

I don't get the culture

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let me guess...an all black frat?

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An historical black frat yes? I don't know of a black frat that doesn't or hasn't let nonblack members into their frats...

I know countless latinas that are AKA or Deltas. We have a federal judge that is puerto rican and he's a Nupe.

I don't know what you're trying to get at?

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I don't know what you're trying to get at?

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i didn't expect you would...i will simplify it. Why is ok for blacks to try to exclude other races and it not be considered racist?

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Then why is there such a backlash against this beautiful young lady (for not being black enough)?

I don't get the culture

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Colorism and jealously. most non white races have huge problems with colorism.

Mezitos dog the darker, Aztec/less mixed Mexicans

North Indians/Punjabi quarrel with South Indians because they are darker

Chinese/Japanese frown upon darker Chinese and Japanese folks

Black folks tend to prop up their mixed gals with long hair and fairer skin.

There aren't many positive reinforcements for attractive dark skin black women. Society basically tells them they aren't pretty enough, or that they look manly or that their natural curly and kinky hair is not comparable to long straight hair. When they are deemed attractive...there always seems to be a disclaimer; "Pretty for a black girl", "black but pretty" etc.


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i didn't expect you would...i will simplify it. Why is ok for blacks to try to exclude other races and it not be considered racist?

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They aren't excluding anyone. You know why those paegants were started? Because black girls of all shades were told they weren't pretty enough and weren't allowed to compete. So they created their own and just held up the tradition today.

And let's be honest, say we get away with minority paegants --- will we see the paegants demographics shift away from the few token minority girls?

If you want to join a historically black frat, there is no one stopping you.

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So they created their own and just held up the tradition today.

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black traditions are ok but white traditions aren't...and you don't see the hypocrisy?

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will we see the paegants demographics shift away from the few token minority girls?

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What would be fair? the same percentage as the population for every race?

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If you want to join a historically black frat,

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The majority of white people wouldn't b/c they are historically black and we are ok with the premise of that. Unfortunately if white people do it or white men want to exclude women from clubs (the Masters) it is wrong. I don't see many white men or men in general trying to be included in women only groups.

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That frat, which is open to ALL people, has been using that sign since the early 1900s. Did they have to ask white supremacists to use it? I don't even know the history of that sign as a supremacy sign.

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you realize that it was 4chan that trolled a bunch of idiots into spreading the myth that something as mundane as an OK sign stands for "White Power"...right?

4 out of 5 are light-skinned. Sounds to me like some pageant judges were discriminating.

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Other groups don't have that history in this country to the same scale.

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Black people, unfortunately, have a history of racial discrimination against other non black groups in this country.

That's a fact. Sorry.