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re: Billionaire Tilman Fertitta furloughs 40,000 workers at casino, restaurant empire

Posted on 3/25/20 at 8:19 am to
Posted by lsutigermall
Plantation Trace
Member since Nov 2006
7301 posts
Posted on 3/25/20 at 8:19 am to
Fertitta and Haliburton - are they liberals now? If they converted, why is everyone making excuses for these two.

Yesterday I read that all the republican-minded were paying handsomely and throughout.

I'm really thinking there are bots on this site.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
40817 posts
Posted on 3/25/20 at 8:22 am to
Tilman is liberal, he is just an a-hole.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34410 posts
Posted on 3/25/20 at 8:24 am to
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I don’t understand how this board promotes conservative principles

We are in this fix because guys like Tillman did business in China, even though we conservatives said it will bite us in the arse

Tillman led the cheers for expansion into China by the NBA. But suddenly its American workers that pay the price for his progressive thinking
Posted by JG77056
Vegas baby, Vegas
Member since Sep 2010
12080 posts
Posted on 3/25/20 at 8:25 am to
I work at a hotel whose owner isn’t paying us during the shutdown and while it would be nice not to have to file for unemployment for a month, that’s what it’s for.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
45338 posts
Posted on 3/25/20 at 8:26 am to
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I don’t understand how this board promotes conservative principles yet feels that business owners are beholden to pay their employees when the business isn’t generating revenue. 

Okay, but I would argue that PTO is different since it has already been accrued. To withhold someones "already earned" pay just to be a douche bag doesn't = conservative in my view.

Granted, it isn’t how I would handle it. I value employees and believe in loyalty and would try to work something out. But if his business call is to cut them loose then that is his call.

True,but still...
frick him.


Posted by Blind Zebras
We comin
Member since Aug 2016
1044 posts
Posted on 3/25/20 at 8:29 am to
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He is an easy target, but many businesses are doing this. This is why after 2 or 3 weeks we need to start transitioning back to opening up with reasonable restrictions.


I agree. Funny how people who didn't risk everything to build a business empire are quick to criticize the man who did. His risk, his business, his wealth. Get over it and build you own if you have a problem with it.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
31201 posts
Posted on 3/25/20 at 8:30 am to
quote:

We are in this fix because guys like Tillman did business in China, even though we conservatives said it will bite us in the arse


Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
17820 posts
Posted on 3/25/20 at 8:32 am to
Billionaires dont be become billionaires by not being giant assholes.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41698 posts
Posted on 3/25/20 at 8:35 am to
Isn't he widely considered to be a POS?

Some of these big companies are still paying all their employees though they are closed, some aren't. I'd be curious to see the financial health differences.
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
NWA
Member since Jan 2012
6795 posts
Posted on 3/25/20 at 8:36 am to
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Nice people don’t become millionaires/billionaires
Yeah, I bet all of you clowns would shite away millions of dollars per week.

40,000 employees * 40 hours * $15 per hour (I'm not even going to add in the cost of fringe benefits)
$24,000,000

Yeah, I bet you guys would be cool with that.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38722 posts
Posted on 3/25/20 at 8:38 am to
They think he has billions sitting in his personal bank account. And they believe places of business keep months of payroll cash on hand. They have zero clue how cash flow works.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
59352 posts
Posted on 3/25/20 at 8:43 am to
I don't blame him, 40,000 employees is a shitload of money to be paying out to people not currently working
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
17925 posts
Posted on 3/25/20 at 8:43 am to
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I don’t understand how this board promotes conservative principles yet feels that business owners are beholden to pay their employees when the business isn’t generating revenue.


Smart businessmen take care of their talent. Employees remember who takes care of them in hard times. Spend a nickel today to save/make a dollar tomorrow.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38241 posts
Posted on 3/25/20 at 8:47 am to
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The poor man just bought a new 250 ft yacht.



and? did you pay for it?



Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41698 posts
Posted on 3/25/20 at 8:47 am to
quote:

They think he has billions sitting in his personal bank account. And they believe places of business keep months of payroll cash on hand. They have zero clue how cash flow works.



Landry's is privately owned, so we will never know the true numbers, but I would imagine it's pretty leveraged. Money comes in the door, most of it goes out the door in the form of debt payments and expenses, and Tilman keeps a tiny % for himself, but the revenue is such a big number that it means a big number for him.

But, I would not be surprised if they don't have a ton of cash in the company.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41698 posts
Posted on 3/25/20 at 8:48 am to
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Smart businessmen take care of their talent. Employees remember who takes care of them in hard times. Spend a nickel today to save/make a dollar tomorrow.


Most of the employee base is probably low-wage and in his mind, easily replaceable.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
59352 posts
Posted on 3/25/20 at 8:52 am to
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Smart businessmen take care of their talent. Employees remember who takes care of them in hard times. Spend a nickel today to save/make a dollar tomorrow.



You think paying several weeks wages for forty thousand lower level employees to sit at home will pay off when this is all said and done?
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38241 posts
Posted on 3/25/20 at 8:57 am to
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Smart businessmen take care of their talent. Employees remember who takes care of them in hard times. Spend a nickel today to save/make a dollar tomorrow.





if you aren't generating revenue, you can't pay anyone anything. especially yourself.

and that whole pollyanna sentiment you just posted is on par with the beauty contestant wanting world peace.

I've watched more "talent" bolt for greener pastures and leave their employer- regardless of what the employer did for them, as I have seen employers shite-can dedicated employees. There is very little loyalty on either side in the modern business world.
You sound like you follow AOC on twitter.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 3/25/20 at 8:58 am to
What's the issue?
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 3/25/20 at 8:59 am to
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This is why after 2 or 3 weeks we need to start transitioning back to opening up with reasonable restrictions.
uh oh. Prepare for:

"your bank account is not more important than my grandmother"

"the economy can recover but we can't bring the deceased back to life"

"you're selfish if you're concerned about losing your job, home and eventually your wife while living in abject poverty for the next decade"
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