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re: Bill Nye Debates Ken Ham
Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:45 pm to Napoleon
Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:45 pm to Napoleon
I didn't say though that these laws are out dated.
when it comes to homosexuality 1 you have to look at genesis when it talks about marriage and 2 it talks about homosexuality in the new testament as well.
when it comes to homosexuality 1 you have to look at genesis when it talks about marriage and 2 it talks about homosexuality in the new testament as well.
Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:46 pm to tiger25
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give me just 1 contradiction in the bible
bible says some supernatural deity created the world in 7 days??
well, that's bullshite, because it is well documented that there was originally a chasm, Ginnungagap, flanked on both sides by fire and ice. Once the fire and ice collided, they formed a gigantic cow, Audhumbla and his master, Ymir. Who, as we all know, pulled from the sweaty underarm pits man and woman. Which was cool until the cow's grandson, Odin up and killed Ymir. From Ymir's dead body, Odin created the world. Ymir's blood was the sea; his flesh, the earth; his skull, the sky; his bones, the mountains; his hair, the trees. Ymir's eyebrow was used to fence in the area where mankind would live.
duh
first story in the bible: contradiction
Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:48 pm to Korkstand
You just posted 21
30 is exponentially harder to do. Do you have another 9?
30 is exponentially harder to do. Do you have another 9?
Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:50 pm to Korkstand
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Every single fossil that is found is more evidence that macroevolution occurs. Each fossil is dated by multiple methods multiple times, and of the millions of fossils found so far, none of them have been "out of place" in the history of the world. What I mean is that "modern" species are never found in the same layers of rock as very old species, nor or they ever dated to such time periods through radiometric methods. Every time a fossil of a previously undescribed species is found, its age always places it in a "hole" between two other species that we have placed on our "tree of life". We don't find T-Rex fossils that date to a billion years old as they didn't evolve until later. Similarly, we don't find human fossils that date to the time of the dinosaurs. What we do find are clear "steps" from one type of creature to the next, and each and every time they are found in the layers of rock as would be expected, and they date to the correct time period through radiometric dating. Every single time.
I don't dispute the claim that various life forms existed, on an ever increasing complexity, over a period of time. What I haven't found is anyone who could give evidence that the ever increasing complexity of the life forms, the tremendous variations of the life forms, occurred strictly by the mechanism of random events. Undirected increasingly complex creation isn't proven, it's simply based on faith based guesses and suppositions of Darwinism.
The step, and it has to be a step at some time in the past according to Darwinism, which produced such divergence which resulted in an elephant and pine tree, both very complex organisms, is nothing more than a guess. Again, there's no evidence for such an event.
Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:53 pm to tiger25
What do you mean 'you don't know', I thought that you said the Bible was literal... Well... the bible said rain.
You can't use the Bible in one way to contradict evolution because the Bible is literal, and at the same time insert your own interpretation, and then say that you don't know what the Bible meant by a flood.
You are contradicting yourself...
You can't use the Bible in one way to contradict evolution because the Bible is literal, and at the same time insert your own interpretation, and then say that you don't know what the Bible meant by a flood.
You are contradicting yourself...
Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:54 pm to tiger25
The Hebrew texts in Genesis refer to a time of chaos and then order instead of days. The sun wasn't created until the 4th "day", so why would a "day" make sense at that point?
Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:54 pm to Korkstand
funny how when I ask you for you to give me an example of a contradiction you go on to something else.
Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:55 pm to beejon
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The step, and it has to be a step at some time in the past according to Darwinism, which produced such divergence which resulted in an elephant and pine tree, both very complex organisms, is nothing more than a guess.
Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:57 pm to BigEdLSU
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You just posted 21
30 is exponentially harder to do. Do you have another 9?
Click. the. link. It is an extremely thorough beatdown of all of the stuff you are talking about, and then some. The guy you are quoting is a crackpot.
Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:57 pm to BigEdLSU
Genesis 1:3-5
And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.
And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.
Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:59 pm to tiger25
I can't sit here and break down the language like an expert and won't try, I'm sure you're familiar with Schroeder and his lectures.
Goodnight.
Goodnight.
Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:59 pm to beejon
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Now, on the chart, where did the primitive life form crawl from the sea (assuming that guess and supposition is correct) and become distinct plant and animal life forms.
This isn't even what evolution claims. Plantae existed before lands animals.
You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
This post was edited on 2/5/14 at 12:02 am
Posted on 2/5/14 at 12:02 am to Roger Klarvin
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You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
If you go further down this rat hole after making this astute observation, it's on you.
Posted on 2/5/14 at 12:03 am to tiger25
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well I ask you to give me just 1 contradiction in the bible. just one. you give me that and I will happily stop posting in the thread.
All four gospels list a different number of women at the tomb when they discovered Jesus' body was missing.
Posted on 2/5/14 at 12:05 am to tiger25
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if you read the story of noah in the bible the whole point of the flood was to destroy the earth because of how corrupt and messed up it was due to the people living at the time. just to have a fresh start. does that make sense?
The amount of water required to submerge the entire earth does not exist. It is physically impossible to cover every inch of land with water.
Posted on 2/5/14 at 12:05 am to Roger Klarvin
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You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about
now that, is neither a guess nor a supposition
thats a fact
beejon is well known for, well, not knowing much of anything. He's myopically focused on the very very specific original, 200 year old "Darwin Theory of Evolution" - even when you point out that the entire scientific community freely admits that that has evolved and changed drastically as evidence and scientific research piles in to improve, and modify the original theory.
he is very particular to type "Darwinistic" in every one of his posts, because, in his feeble mind, you (despite your education) are arguing Darwin's original hypothesis, and he thinks he has you dead to rights
Posted on 2/5/14 at 12:05 am to tiger25
Uh... so how long is this first day?
There were no mention of the sun, stars, or moon until Genesis 1:16 which I believe was on the 4th day.
There were no mention of the sun, stars, or moon until Genesis 1:16 which I believe was on the 4th day.
Posted on 2/5/14 at 12:05 am to Roger Klarvin
would you mind giving me the verses your referring to?
Posted on 2/5/14 at 12:06 am to Roger Klarvin
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All four gospels list a different number of women at the tomb when they discovered Jesus' body was missing.
Well that's not really a contradiction
These stories were passed by word of mouth before being written down so of course each gospel is going to have a few details different. That's the whole point in having 4 gospels
Posted on 2/5/14 at 12:07 am to tiger25
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give me an example
"Light" was created before the sun and stars. A totally nonsensical situation in the first few lines, and it doesn't get much better after that.
Here is a graphic that depicts and lists 439 contradictions
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