re: Bill Nye Debates Ken Ham

The death that they are speaking of is the death of the soul. So basically you couldn't go to heaven until Jesus came. That's what they mean I believe.
I don't take much of the old testament to be literal.

Because people were origionally born without sin. Through free will, they sinned. Thus all of their children inherited that sin.

So I guess the soul didn't "die" in fact after all, but it did up until the point of Jesus.

I'm pretty sure throughout Catholicism, Old Testament is meant to be more of "stories" and New Testament is literal stuff.

Like no, I don't think Noah actually built an ark or noah actually made 80 feet of water split or lived to be 500 years old or whatever

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But this is exactly what Ken Ham is passing off as creationism science. So which is it?

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I don't get what you are saying?

I believe in God and evolution and the big bang and all that

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Why do you believe there is no evidence that a pine tree and an elephant have a common ancestor? I only ask because, actually, there is.

Pine trees and elephants are composed of the same nucleic acids, the same enzymes, many of the same biological mechanisms, the same organelles, etc. On a cellular level, there is plenty of evidence.

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That those life forms are composed of the same elements offers absolutely no proof that those life forms had a common ancestor. Such a claim is ludicrous. It proves that there are common building blocks for life, nothing more.

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However, I know none of that means anything to you. You actually want to see a plant become an animal in a matter of generations.

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I know that the complete lack of proof, of evidence that an elephant and pine tree had a traceable ancestor means nothing to you. If it did, you'd simply face the truth that there is no evidence that some early life form somehow split into the linage which produced, by trillions and trillions of random events the elephant and pine tree we observe today.

All of the bible should be taken literal. Noah isn't just some story it really happened and we have fossils to prove it like Mr. Ham said. now when you get into the laws of the OT like the one brought up in the debate about not touching pig skin you have to understand that these laws were made for a specific people in a specific time period. does that make sense?

give me one thing that shouldn't be taken literally

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Non young earth / evolution / science believers base their belief on rigorous testing, constant questioning of beliefs, growth of knowledge that has been going on for the entirety of human life.

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Darwinian evolution isn't based on "rigorous testing". It's impossible to test Darwinian evolution, it's simply a series of guesses and suppositions that isn't supported scientifically.t

"Constant questioning of beliefs" isn't part of Darwinian evolution. Try doing it in school and see what happens. Let a teacher do it and they'll not have their job long.

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Young earth / creation proponents believe that a book written 2000 years ago represents the pinnacle of human knowledge and end all be all of 'science'.

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Not true. As a creationist, I support many scientific endeavors...science has changed life for the better, for the most part. To broadly paint Christians as anti-science is neither accurate nor fair.