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re: Bill Nye Debates Ken Ham
Posted on 2/4/14 at 9:34 pm to BigEdLSU
Posted on 2/4/14 at 9:34 pm to BigEdLSU
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Its so much deeper than that bro. Will remove any doubt that the scriptures, in their original Hebrew, are not from man.
There are too many contradictions and historical inaccuracies for the bible to be written by a higher, omniscient power.
Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the bible. It is one of the greatest literary works in human history and has a lot of things I believe in and morals I follow within it. I just don't believe for one second it was directly God breathed. I believe SOME parts of it have very real meaning, and many of the people and events are definitely real, but it was clearly written by men.
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 9:36 pm to jimbeam
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I don't believe in coincidence
considering how many hours the average American watches TV per day, the number of times the existence of God is discussed, and how much time you spend on tigerdroppings, that wasn't really a coincidence. it was bound to happen
This post was edited on 2/4/14 at 9:37 pm
Posted on 2/4/14 at 9:36 pm to Huck Finn
Interesting view...but when you conclude that God is the creator, as can be logically inferred, does it really matter how we arrived at this point in time? Those corpses had life and a role in a plan. The purpose of the plan or purpose of our existence, as you may believe, is still unknown to creationist and scientist alike.
Posted on 2/4/14 at 9:37 pm to Turkey_Creek_Tiger
I JUST opened youtube
I really don't watch that much tv
I really don't watch that much tv
Posted on 2/4/14 at 9:38 pm to jimbeam
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I JUST opened youtube
I really don't watch that much tv
it still means nothing. coincidences prove nothing, whether you believe in them or not. they happen ALL the time
This post was edited on 2/4/14 at 9:39 pm
Posted on 2/4/14 at 9:41 pm to jimbeam
I always enjoy these discussions and sincerely respect each view.......but my wife says its time to turn off the computer
Posted on 2/4/14 at 9:41 pm to BigEdLSU
Posted on 2/4/14 at 9:41 pm to Turkey_Creek_Tiger
Yep. Any time you think you've witnessed some amazing coincidence, just remember that statistically thousands of them are occurring all over the world at that same moment.
Posted on 2/4/14 at 9:42 pm to mattloc
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I always enjoy these discussions and sincerely respect each view.......but my wife says its time to turn off the computer
goodnight
Posted on 2/4/14 at 9:42 pm to mattloc
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Interesting view...but when you conclude that God is the creator, as can be logically inferred, does it really matter how we arrived at this point in time? Those corpses had life and a role in a plan. The purpose of the plan or purpose of our existence, as you may believe, is still unknown to creationist and scientist alike.
I'm naturally curious, as our species should be, so yes I think it does matter how we arrived at this moment.
Posted on 2/4/14 at 9:42 pm to The Calvin
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And you have no and have never had any proof of a supernatural god
Just saying
Exactly! They're all faith based beliefs.
Posted on 2/4/14 at 9:43 pm to BigEdLSU
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When professors on the mathematics faculty at Harvard University were presented with this biblical phenomenon they naturally attempted to disprove its significance as a proof of divine authorship. However, after valiant efforts these professors were unable to duplicate this incredible mathematical phenomenon. The Harvard scientists used the English language and artificially assigned numeric values to the English alphabet. They had a potential vocabulary of over 400,000 available English words to choose from to construct a sentence about any topic they chose. Compare this to the limitations of word choices in the biblical Hebrew language which has only forty-five hundred available word choices that the writers of the Old Testament could use. Despite their advanced mathematical abilities and access to computers the mathematicians were unable to come close to incorporating 30 mathematical multiples of 7 as found in the Hebrew words of Genesis 1:1.
Posted on 2/4/14 at 9:44 pm to Patron Saint
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And those salamanders evolved into....something other than salamanders? That's like Darwin's finches evolving into something other than finches . Both are evidence for micro evolution, but aren't evidence for Darwinian, macro, evolution.
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Aren't those the same thing, just on a continuum?
That's certainly what the guesses and suppositions of Darwinian evolution claims. There's absolutely no proof, no evidence, for it though.
Posted on 2/4/14 at 9:44 pm to Huck Finn
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To me, the sticking point in reconciling darwinian evolution and creationism is that this would mean God, instead of creating a mature and diverse planet, would have done the most inefficient and inhumane thing ever: start with a single organism and over millions of years and trillions of corpses, arrived at the current version of man. That a good, loving and all-powerful God would choose this is far-fetched to me.
You may as well use the same excuse on why fully grown humans don't magically appear out of thin air instead of starting from a single cell.
Posted on 2/4/14 at 9:45 pm to BigEdLSU
Gravity does not exist.
Darkness does not exist.
Darkness does not exist.
Posted on 2/4/14 at 9:45 pm to BigEdLSU
1: Your source isn't exactly unbiased 
2: So God used a code of sevens, one which literally nobody would understand the significance of for thousands of years, to prove his book directed at bronze age middle eastern nomads was divinely inspired?
2: So God used a code of sevens, one which literally nobody would understand the significance of for thousands of years, to prove his book directed at bronze age middle eastern nomads was divinely inspired?
Posted on 2/4/14 at 9:47 pm to BigEdLSU
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This phenomenal discovery by Panin has been examined by numerous authorities and the figures have been verified. In total, Panin accumulated over forty thousand pages of detailed calculations covering most of the text of the Bible before his death. These incredible, mathematical patterns are not limited to the number seven. There are numerous other patterns. These amazing patterns appear in the vocabulary, grammatical forms, parts of speech, and particular forms of words. They occur throughout the whole text of the Bible containing 31,173 verses. When you consider the amazing details of this mathematical phenomenon you realize that the change of a single letter or word in the original languages of Hebrew or Greek would destroy the pattern. Now we can understand why Jesus Christ declared that the smallest letter and grammatical mark of the Scriptures was persevered by God's Hand: "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled." (Matthew 5:18).
Posted on 2/4/14 at 9:48 pm to Roger Klarvin
Watch a Schroeder lecture, science fits the Bible like a hand and a glove.
Posted on 2/4/14 at 9:48 pm to beejon
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Exactly! They're all faith based beliefs.
One is faith based, completely unfalsifiable.
The other is the most well researched and well understood idea in all of biological science and has withstood thousands upon thousands of attempts at falsification.
And don't think it has gone unnoticed that you have ignored the mountains of evidence presented to you in this thread.
This post was edited on 2/4/14 at 9:49 pm
Posted on 2/4/14 at 9:49 pm to Tigerlaff
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Guesses and suppositions
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Boom! There it is!
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