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Posted on 9/12/20 at 2:27 pm to keakar
Teachers have shown their "dedication" to education with the school shutdowns. Any goodwill they earned is lost.
Posted on 9/12/20 at 2:29 pm to jlovel7
Bill Maher is the smartest person I know of that admits to being a liberal.
Posted on 9/12/20 at 2:37 pm to jlovel7
Parents treat schools like a glorified day care. Parents are just trash now.
Posted on 9/12/20 at 2:40 pm to BluegrassBelle
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The mentality that your kid is always right and you're the only person who should be disciplining your kid has permeated across multiple societal lines and gotten utterly out of hand. People try to pit it as a left vs. right issue, but it's all the way across the board.
I agree with the first part, but I think you're wrong about the left vs .right bit...
In conservative run small towns in the Mountains of NC, they still use paddles...
Dad to principal
"set the phone down near the desk, I want to hear it, and when he comes home, I will finish the job, thank you again for helping me discipline our son"
Inner city black single mom
"Don't ever call me at work again, until 3, he's your problem"
these are quotes from principals and counselors recounting real stories
Posted on 9/12/20 at 2:53 pm to ApexTiger
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Inner city black single mom
"Don't ever call me at work again, until 3, he's your problem"
Have heard this from a White, affluent, married Mom
"I'm out in Simpsonville right now at the Outlet. Maybe just keep him in your office until school gets out and I'll deal with it later".
Or, over their kid getting busted for having a half-full bottle of Vodka, clearly under the influence, and a large knife in their backpack:
"If this suspension goes on his record, he won't get into Princeton. We are appealing this suspension and will take this all the way to the board. My lawyer will be contacting you. You're trying to ruin my son's life.".
I promise you, it's not remotely exclusive. Both are an issue that needs to be addressed.
This post was edited on 9/12/20 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 9/12/20 at 4:07 pm to BluegrassBelle
I was the risk mgr at a 100 + public school system for right at a yr. When I attended my first 5-6 disciplinary conferences that first mth, I was surprised to see a parish LEO in attendance, along with the principal, assistant principal & the teacher of record. A parent was there as well, 50 - 50 on it being either a mother or grandmother. I was there in case any pure legal issue came up, otherwise an observer. Every case involved the student being involved in a fight involving several students, in every case the student at the hearing was the instigator.In a matter of minutes, every case, the LEO had to step in & restrain the parent, including 2 grannies. This is where the problems start, at home.
Posted on 9/12/20 at 4:09 pm to BluegrassBelle
I agree with Bill more often that I should probably.
I agree teachers are treated like shite in many regards.
I also know that the quality of teachers, not all but some, sucks and we're caught in defending them all or not defending at all.
I grew up in a period when a teacher kicked your arse, your parents never, ever questioned the teacher's authority. Hell, many of my teachers taught my parents.
Life in the 50s and 60s was where it's at, or was.
I agree teachers are treated like shite in many regards.
I also know that the quality of teachers, not all but some, sucks and we're caught in defending them all or not defending at all.
I grew up in a period when a teacher kicked your arse, your parents never, ever questioned the teacher's authority. Hell, many of my teachers taught my parents.
Life in the 50s and 60s was where it's at, or was.
Posted on 9/12/20 at 4:13 pm to Triple Bogey
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For all his liberal bullshite, Bill Maher speaks the truth sometimes
Its made him $100 million to play a side. He realised he was good ar pissing people off..like Ann Coulterbut smarter. Bill probably DGAF about most of the liberal shite.
Thats who he was banging btw lol..coverage outkicked
This post was edited on 9/12/20 at 4:14 pm
Posted on 9/12/20 at 4:13 pm to jlovel7
It depends on the discipline. A little girl in my youngest kid’s class was embarrassed and disciplined by their teacher in front of the class for wearing a ying yang necklace she won in a claw machine at a pizza place here.
Her parents took issue with that, rightfully so.
Her parents took issue with that, rightfully so.
Posted on 9/12/20 at 4:27 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:That's usually a cope for people who are terrible parents and don't hold their kids accountable for anything.
Mass education is a broken model. Hopefully this shutdown dismantles it.
Posted on 9/12/20 at 4:29 pm to jlovel7
From what I have been told by teachers, parents are the absolute worse (of course not all of them because there are some parents who do not give a single frick about what's going on with their kids).
A teacher I know told me that this year that one of her virtual students has a mother who will get into the screen in the middle of her teaching and start dancing and then laughing as if its perfectly okay for her to distract the kids that are in the class.
A teacher I know told me that this year that one of her virtual students has a mother who will get into the screen in the middle of her teaching and start dancing and then laughing as if its perfectly okay for her to distract the kids that are in the class.
Posted on 9/12/20 at 4:49 pm to SEClint
He's always outkicked his coverage on the dating front. This is a man that dated "superhead" at one point
Posted on 9/12/20 at 4:51 pm to jlovel7
I was a teacher for 6 years in both "urban" and a wealthier suburban district and got push back and disrespect from all parents. A lot of the urban and liberal parents view any type of work or accountability as punishment and will say things like "why do hate my child" or throw the race card. The conservative parents that are hostile to teachers usually assume you're some type of raging liberal trying to indoctrinate their kids or use outdated cliches like "Schools don't teach trades" (even though that's drastically changed the last decade and kids can pretty much get pretty much get a free education in the trades and they can't take a few hours of their time to do any research and enroll their kid in that type of program).
Posted on 9/12/20 at 5:06 pm to BluegrassBelle
After 30 years of teaching i will retire after this year. I am sick of the politics.
Posted on 9/12/20 at 5:11 pm to jlovel7
Posted on 9/12/20 at 5:15 pm to jlovel7
Maher is a smug liberal douche but he hits some fricking grand slams every once in a while. This is one of them. And his hatred of Islam is right up there too.
Posted on 9/12/20 at 5:39 pm to MillerLiteTime
First step is getting the feds out of education. Department of Education should not exist.
Second step is getting the state out of education.
Third step is implement local independent school districts financed by the community, for the community, and governed by the community.
There also needs to be harsher discipline for bad behaving students AND their parents.
We also need more blue and gray collar job training for teens. The world needs plumbers, masons, electricians, welders, and builders. We don’t need literature, gender and racial studies, journalism, philosophy, or art majors.
Second step is getting the state out of education.
Third step is implement local independent school districts financed by the community, for the community, and governed by the community.
There also needs to be harsher discipline for bad behaving students AND their parents.
We also need more blue and gray collar job training for teens. The world needs plumbers, masons, electricians, welders, and builders. We don’t need literature, gender and racial studies, journalism, philosophy, or art majors.
Posted on 9/12/20 at 6:29 pm to MillerLiteTime
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Not really. It worked just fine for a century while America's workforce destroyed every other nation. That was, until the American parent decimated public education by viewing it as another government entitlement instead of a shared responsibility. No system of education will succeed with parents who think their child is perfect.
Our model of education is archaic. It was designed to prepare people for a life of factory work. It is a industrial model that no longer suits our post-industrial economy.
Posted on 9/12/20 at 6:57 pm to TheeRealCarolina
quote:This is one of the least accurate cliches people use to criticize the education system.I don't know about where you live but most school districts have access to technical training, most parents and students are too lazy to take advantage of it.I recommended a program to one parent and she told me to enroll her kid in it. When I told her she had to do it herself at the central office, she threw a fit on me. She couldn't believe that she actually had to take time out of her day to provide for her son's education.
We also need more blue and gray collar job training for teens. The world needs plumbers, masons, electricians, welders, and builders. We don’t need literature, gender and racial studies, journalism, philosophy, or art majors.
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