re: Biker Shootout at the Twin Peaks in Waco, TX

-1 for a mere 4G signal
+1 for 4 bars signal strength
-1 for less than 50% battery charge
+2 for clarity of photo
+5 for sweet action shot
Final score a passable +6.

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What are the chances that it turns out cops fired first or there was one shot and the cops unloaded.

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Fired first = 0 chance

Unloaded? Hell! They should have pulled up the supply truck and let them take target practice.

Everyone knew for weeks what was going to happen. These biker dumbasses trying to make excuses like "90% of the bikers did nothing wrong" is laughable.

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Pretty much. I'd say 75% of Harley owners just want to wear Harley gear more than actually ride. Go check out Bikes Blues and BBQ sometime, it's a bunch of middle aged and old yuppies that trailer their bikes in and then ride a few miles around Fayetteville wearing dumb shite on their vests like "Biker for Life".

It's the same idiots that will tell someone on a Suzuki or Honda they aren't a real biker because it's not a Harley....yet they trailer their bikes anywhere farther than 50 miles away.

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Spot on post.

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Yeah moron, it was just 2 guys fighting and cops shot 9 people. God you are fricking dumb.

NOTHING the gangs did was "justified".

You're pathetic. Sitting there praying the cop's were wrong, even when you do know for a fact that 3 gangs met there to fight! And many had guns and knives.

"potentially"? Really clown?

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Nobody here knows what actually happened there. I will correct you on one thing though. It was not just "3 gangs met there to fight". It was a C.O.C. meeting of Texas based clubs. There were numerous law abiding non-"outlaw" MC's present including military vet clubs and even Christian ministry clubs.

So. Dude wants to trailer his bike, dude paid for said bike and trailer. I don't gotta prob with that. Personally, I'm not the biggest Harley fan. They are too heavy and pretty to be ridden properly(by me-I'll make em not so pretty any more). Too loud usually also. Just not my thang, but, I do admire them as being pretty and cool looking.

My personal views to the board discussion.

Been riding for 40+years since a young kid. Dirt bikes, street cruisers, crotch rockets, even HD and my fav the last decade or so have been dual sports. Cause on a dual sport you can pull off the boring arse road and get on some trails, maybe cross a few streams and get into some real stuff that requires REAL BIKER SKILLZ and EXPERIENCE. Without having to worry about muddying up all your pretty chrome.

Never wore MC patch never will. Ain't impressed and just don't really give a fart about it. Means nothing, zilch, notta to me. If I wanna ride with some buds we will just roll. Don't need no stupid looking patches to ride with bros.

This patch crap is kinda silly. War over a fricking patch? Sounds like a bunch of 8 year olds with cardboard clubhouse rulz. Give me a break. Grow up. Grown ups don't act like that. Pathetic.

Furthermore, these supposed "1%ers" brought this melee to the land of the 99%. They showed no respect for law abiding citizens and their families and children in their own territory. As well as the police who were present at the event, just in case. They showed no respect, got shot, got locked up. Big deal. The rest of you just don't act like that no more. I personally don't care about your club or your lifestyle or whatever. What I do care about is the safety of my family and the families of my friends and neighbors whom I respect and fellowship with. It is unacceptable that an innocent civilian had to hide his family behind a car to protect them from this childish melee. Unacceptable. Unacceptable. Unacceptable. So some of these people died engaged in criminal activity, others were wounded and the rest got locked up. No pity from my view point.

If I were a 3 patch MC member. I would renounce that crap immediately, simply because I would not want to be associated with this kind of childishness criminal activity and stupidity. MC leaders should bring this crap up to their clubs, and renounce all of this stupid colors bullskit and what kind of stupidity these childish policies create. Fallout to honest decent law abiding civilians and their children and families on a beautiful afternoon is just not acceptable. JUST THROW THE PATCHES AWAY! You don't need that crap to ride and party with your buds.

Finally, what a bunch of drama queens. Good job Waco Police protecting the 99%ers who weren't toting weapons that day. And their children because as many of us do, they were enjoying a nice meal and fellowship on an otherwise beautiful Sunday afternoon. Heard they took that Twin Peak franchise away. All 99%er establishments should just ban colors. Problem solved.

No offense to anyone out there including Tej. I realize there are some cool MC fellowships out there. But, really? These Clubs and people involved in this type of reckless criminal activity should be embarrassed for participating in that kind of childish criminal behavior. Keep it real people. Be safe on the roads.

So, 170 dudes were arrested and brought to jail, some of which are being held on $1 million dollar bond because they were wearing motorcycle boots and/or a motorcycle vest? (whatever you call it)

Sorry, I can't imagine the uproar if this happened to a different ummm "ethnic group"...cough, cough.

How is throwing people in jail because of their clothing (rather than their actions) any different than throwing a ton of people in jail bc of their color?

This is nothing more than an unorganized police force trying to demonstrate they have everything under control by taking the laziest possible approach...arrest everybody.

Maybe the next time there is a fight at an IHOP between 2 minorities, cops should arrest every minority on the property.

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It was a C.O.C. meeting of Texas based clubs. There were numerous law abiding non-"outlaw" MC's present including military vet clubs and even Christian ministry clubs.

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real question here -- why in the world does a christian ministry club show up to meet with the banditos and cossacks?

Nothing personal, and I know what you are trying to stir up here, but your comparison makes zero sense. Under your hypothetical, they should have arrested every white person in the area. They didn't. They arrested patched MC members.

If a fight breaks out in a plac between Crips and Bloods and the police arrest every dude sporting blue and red no one is going to bitch.

Nice troll attempt but you missed the mark badly. 0/10

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real question here -- why in the world does a christian ministry club show up to meet with the banditos and cossacks?

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The purpose of the COC is to act as as sort of governing body of each state and to give each member club equal footing and equal voice in the MC community. Basically, if you want to be a MC in a given state, you don't have much choice other than to be a member of that state's COC. The concept behind the COC's was good and noble. But like all entities that wield power, they've been corrupted and are now dominated by the certain clubs. Many think that the day of the COC's has run it's course. They're supposed to be a unity, community, and brotherhood. But what they've become is all about power, control, and politics.