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re: Biden leaning towards canceling 10K in student loan debt if u earn less than 125K

Posted on 8/24/22 at 9:12 pm to
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
34679 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 9:12 pm to
I personally can't wait for the melt from millions of excited people who are about to find out their loans don't qualify because they are private.
Posted by BigWillyMetry
Member since Dec 2021
1548 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 9:19 pm to
More gibs me daT

It’s all insane but a $125k threshold is truly insane. If you make over $100k you can pay your damn loans.

I’m SO tired of paying for all these entitled mf@s in this country.

Again, just mo gibs

This doesn’t solve the real problem. The gov needs to GET OUT of the education loan market entirely. Good lord is it not obvious yet.

FJB
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
33521 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 9:23 pm to
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Additionally, if it is so immoral and oppressive to saddle 18 year olds with this debt that the government feels compelled to forgive the debt, they shouldn’t be in the business of giving these loans out in the first place.



fricking preach
Posted by BigWillyMetry
Member since Dec 2021
1548 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 9:31 pm to
What does this mean for case law on other loan agreements? Clearly all of them are worthless then right?

Should my mortgage also qualify for forgiveness? Let’s say my house didn’t appreciate in value like real estate mostly should…where’s my check? Lol

FJB
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37087 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 9:34 pm to
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What does this mean for case law on other loan agreements? Clearly all of them are worthless then right?

Should my mortgage also qualify for forgiveness? Let’s say my house didn’t appreciate in value like real estate mostly should…where’s my check? Lol



Some of y'all are truly retarded
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31660 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 10:07 pm to
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What does this mean for case law on other loan agreements? Clearly all of them are worthless then right? Should my mortgage also qualify for forgiveness? Let’s say my house didn’t appreciate in value like real estate mostly should…where’s my check? Lol FJB


Go read your mortgage agreement. Then go read a federal student loan agreement. I doubt you’ve actually read either, but I promise that if you read both, you will find very important distinctions between them.
Posted by BigWillyMetry
Member since Dec 2021
1548 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 11:31 pm to
Indeed you are. Go enjoy your handout on me.

Where does it end? It doesn’t. Just more Gibs me daT. Change your username to “MoGibs”
This post was edited on 8/24/22 at 11:48 pm
Posted by BigWillyMetry
Member since Dec 2021
1548 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 11:50 pm to
Yea bud, and they are both obligations to pay, one is getting eviscerated because it’s politically expedient.
Posted by Palmetto98
Where the stars are big and bright
Member since Nov 2021
2145 posts
Posted on 8/25/22 at 5:34 am to
Imagine being butthurt over someone else’s life slightly improving.
Posted by terd ferguson
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Member since Aug 2007
113933 posts
Posted on 8/25/22 at 5:44 am to
The government is going to spend our tax dollars no matter what. I'd rather see it benefit Americans than some country half a world away.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41443 posts
Posted on 8/25/22 at 5:49 am to
Edit: TLDR

Being genuinely worried about the financial ramifications of additional deficit spending to pay of debt owed to the fed government is horrible fiscal policy and will lead to inflation of currency and tuition is not butt hurt.

It’s also not butt hurt to wonder why only student loan debt is being relieved.


Too long version

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Imagine being butthurt over someone else’s life slightly improving.


It’s not that peoples lives are slightly improving. It’s that we are massively in debt and now want to add directly to the bottom line of that amount.

I heard a scenario that’s a real one the other day and it made perfect sense.

Two twin brothers graduate high school. Both smart, but Tim got better grades while Donny loved taking small engines apart and rebuilding them. Tim chooses to attend a good, public university but doesn’t have scholarships. In order to attend he takes out $50,000 in student loans over the 4 years it took for him to graduate.

Donny apprentices under a master mechanic and in 4 years chooses to start his own business. In order to pay for his truck and tools, he takes out $50,000 in business loans.

Now, that next September the federal government grants a $10,000 entitlement check to everyone making less than $125,000 in income to help pay back student loans. Neither brother makes this amount, but both make a decent living.

Why does Tim “deserve” to have his loans reduced by $10,000 but Donny doesn’t? Why isn’t the government taking on more debt to pay off smalL business loans as opposed to student loans( not that I’d be ok with that one either)? Why is the government paying $10,000 to college graduates using taxes from people that have either A) never went to college, B) went to college and paid off their loans, or C) never took student loans out to begin with?

Also, what will this massive entitlement spending upon our deficient do to inflation (remember, we don’t have this money) and what will it due again to college tuition?

This is such a bad idea that sounds good only if you live in a progressive bubble where everyone has fed backed student loan debt and wants relief.
This post was edited on 8/25/22 at 5:52 am
Posted by CunningLinguist
Dallas, TX
Member since Mar 2006
19163 posts
Posted on 8/25/22 at 5:50 am to
This measure will almost assuredly be blocked in blocked in court. This is highly illegal. So it is too hard to get fatalistic about this measure. I’d support actual efforts to curb costs of college for future students.
Posted by Palmetto98
Where the stars are big and bright
Member since Nov 2021
2145 posts
Posted on 8/25/22 at 6:11 am to
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Edit: TLDR


I really don’t get why all of y’all fricking tradies crying about people going to college? Y’all literally benefit from it due to lower competition and higher salaries. Do you really want 100% of hs grads to just flood the trades and screw over everything for you because Johnny got 10k? Orrr I decide to take my college educated self and work with you and steal your coveted foreman position because I’m not a dip shvt like most uneducated laborers. I worked in a factory during the summer time in college and the HS educated foreman was constantly paranoid about losing his job to a college grad hire. Guess what?…IT happened! HEY, but Johnny got 10k though!!

All of that butthurt over 10k? Yet, you worship a president with 4 bankruptcies on his record. Do you want to go over the handouts the boomers had as well?
This post was edited on 8/25/22 at 6:21 am
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54838 posts
Posted on 8/25/22 at 6:17 am to
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This measure will almost assuredly be blocked in blocked in court. This is highly illegal. So it is too hard to get fatalistic about this measure. I’d support actual efforts to curb costs of college for future students.
I haven’t seen this discussed much, but I suspect this move gets challenged and I could easily see a court determining the President doesn’t have the authority to cancel the debt. Should be interesting to watch.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
73226 posts
Posted on 8/25/22 at 6:20 am to
you’re really losing it over this. sooo much caring about what other people say/feel. take your $10k handout and be happy!
Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
71745 posts
Posted on 8/25/22 at 6:21 am to
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I really don’t get all of y’all fricking tradies crying about people going to college? Y’all literally benefit from it due to lower competition and higher salaries. Do you really want 100% of hs grads to just flood the trades and screw over everything for you because Johnny got 10k? Orrr I decide to take my college educated self and work with you and steal your coveted foreman position because I’m not a dip shvt like most uneducated laborers. I worked in a factory during the summer time in college and the HS educated foreman was constantly paranoid about losing his job to a college grad hire. Guess what?…IT happened! HEY, but Johnny got 10k though!!

All of that butthurt over 10k? Yet, you worship a president with 4 bankruptcies on his record. Do you want to go over the handouts the boomers had as well?


HOly frick you're an absolute idiot.
Posted by Palmetto98
Where the stars are big and bright
Member since Nov 2021
2145 posts
Posted on 8/25/22 at 6:25 am to
I’m getting 20k Superman
Posted by cardswinagain
Member since Jun 2013
13210 posts
Posted on 8/25/22 at 6:26 am to
Trump broke you. Bigly
Posted by Palmetto98
Where the stars are big and bright
Member since Nov 2021
2145 posts
Posted on 8/25/22 at 6:27 am to
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HOly frick you're an absolute idiot.


I am, I forgot I’m trying to explain basic economics to someone that lives off monster energy drinks and hot food from Twice Daily!
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
73226 posts
Posted on 8/25/22 at 6:28 am to
congrats! my kids will be paying for it for the rest of their lives, even tho they have loaded 529B’s and won’t need student loans.

you should shift this extra cash towards paying off that new truck you bought.
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