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re: Biden leaning towards canceling 10K in student loan debt if u earn less than 125K

Posted on 8/24/22 at 3:15 pm to
Posted by PassingThrough
Member since Sep 2021
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Posted on 8/24/22 at 3:15 pm to
The biggest deficit issues comes from the tax break from Republicans which just make the richest and corporate America wealthier and meant all us middle class peeps paying more in taxes, but keep living the dream.
This post was edited on 8/24/22 at 3:16 pm
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 8/24/22 at 3:15 pm to
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I would personally disallow them from any future loans at my institution as they obviously don't know what a loan agreement is and can't be trusted to make good on the agreement.



Millions who were on track to pay their loans off on time or early will get this forgiveness.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
59077 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 3:18 pm to
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Anyone that gets this loan debt forgiveness should get a massive credit ding.

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I would personally disallow them from any future loans at my institution
there's a reason you don't have an institution...
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296830 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 3:18 pm to
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The biggest deficit issues comes from the tax break from Republicans which just make the richest and corporate America wealthier and meant all us middle class peeps paying more in taxes, but keep living the dream.



That's a nice populist narrative and is way too simplified, which is why its aimed at populists.

If you are saying Republicans are as responsible as Democrats, I agree.
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5931 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 3:19 pm to
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make the richest and corporate America wealthier and meant all us middle class peeps paying more in taxes, but keep living the dream.


This debt forgiveness is going to mostly white collars middle class but the poor and lower class is paying for it

And the democrats are the party of Wall Street and the rich nowadays
Posted by BoogaBear
Member since Jul 2013
7005 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 3:24 pm to
I guess those of us who refinanced our student loans to a lower rate get boned. Figures.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 8/24/22 at 3:25 pm to
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This post was edited on 8/24/22 at 3:27 pm
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
39925 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 3:27 pm to
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This debt forgiveness is going to mostly white collars middle class but the poor and lower class is paying for it



"why is the working class voting against us" Bernie supporters
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31660 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 3:34 pm to
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Anyone that gets this loan debt forgiveness should get a massive credit ding. I would personally disallow them from any future loans at my institution as they obviously don't know what a loan agreement is and can't be trusted to make good on the agreement.




I know exactly what a loan agreement is. I had one on my car that is now paid off. I have one on my mortgage. Also have a bunch of different ones for my student loans, all of which have forgiveness clauses that state that the forgiveness paradigm may change going forward.

It amuses me to no end watching people who have never actually read a federal student loan agreement making asses of themselves as though they have the faintest idea as to what they are talking about
This post was edited on 8/24/22 at 3:35 pm
Posted by TCO
Member since Jul 2022
3261 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 3:47 pm to
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Anyone that gets this loan debt forgiveness should get a massive credit ding.


Hold on. Borrowers don’t have a choice in this matter. I have a small amount of loans left, under 10k. I have paid faithfully and on time. I shouldn’t have my credit “dinged” because of something I have no control over. I can’t go to the US Government and say “hey guys, don’t forgive my remaining balance.” I have no choice in the matter.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
71062 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 3:52 pm to
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Anyone that gets this loan debt forgiveness should get a massive credit ding.


I dont disagree that this is a HORRIBLE policy, but this is an asinine statement.

Not accepting it would simply prove that someone is an idiot.
Posted by Harry Morgan
Member since Sep 2019
10340 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 4:07 pm to
Both having MFA’s can’t equal 125k on a double barista income.
Posted by Bonkers119
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2015
11672 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 4:10 pm to
I'm pumped, 20% of my current debt is student loans. This will be massive.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62052 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 4:15 pm to
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Im not talking about giving them college tuition. Im talking about doing it for kids in middle school coming from poor households. Like $60k or less households



Doing what?

These handouts all result in the same thing...taxpayers get killed, and everyone pays more for everything because of inflation.
Posted by cardswinagain
Member since Jun 2013
13210 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 4:22 pm to
Nice. Screw all those people who worked off their debts the right way right? Biden is a disgrace
Posted by BROpaneTANK
Mandeville
Member since Apr 2010
3084 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 4:28 pm to
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Doing what? These handouts all result in the same thing...taxpayers get killed, and everyone pays more for everything because of inflation.


After giving out $4+ Trillion over three stimulus packages and handouts to companies that furloughed employees and participated in stock buybacks, we survived two years without substantial inflation. What tipped the scale? Gas prices and supply chain disruption.
This post was edited on 8/24/22 at 4:29 pm
Posted by 9th Green At 9
From where they make gumbo at
Member since Jul 2015
3039 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 4:28 pm to
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Nice. Screw all those people who worked off their debts the right way right?
Is there not anything more American?
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
69091 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 4:44 pm to
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The biggest deficit issues comes from the tax break from Republicans which just make the richest and corporate America wealthier and meant all us middle class peeps paying more in taxes, but keep living the dream.


This tax break is going to be given to corporations too. Millions of consumers with $10k-20k of newfound financial freedom. Time to buy some shite, likely through more debt.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31660 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 6:08 pm to
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This tax break is going to be given to corporations too. Millions of consumers with $10k-20k of newfound financial freedom. Time to buy some shite, likely through more debt.


That would surprise me. It's not like this is being handed out to people. On a month to month basis, this isn't going to change people's budgets markedly. Sure, some low income people are going to feel it keenly, but if they were already being fiscally responsible, this isn't going to change that. And if they were already being fiscally irresponsible, this isn't going to change that.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
69091 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 6:12 pm to
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That would surprise me. It's not like this is being handed out to people. On a month to month basis, this isn't going to change people's budgets markedly


He also plans to lower the minimum payment requirement by half, extended the payment holiday through the rest of the year, and a few other things I can't recall.

And he's doing this for a lot of people who were able to pay the loans anyway, not just the single mom bus driver with $40k in debt from U Phoenix.

Eta
Someone whose debt he ISN'T paying is the single mom bus driver who couldn't go to college. But the married young lawyers who make 200k combined and are about to start peaking in their careers will enjoy the better financial situation I'm sure.
This post was edited on 8/24/22 at 6:20 pm
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